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Depending on the situation and the driver, that kind of unexpected startling nose could itself lead to a nasty accident.
 

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I have no issue with the actual amber alert on my phone or TV/Radio. The only way it was heard thru the radio like the previous poster mentioned is he probably had his phone connected to his car radio thru a 3.5 milli metre jack and he was playing some sort of streaming music. or making a phone call and pumped the sound thru the car's speakers. The reason why palmorex wont give a damn is because the user did this setup on purpose and it just so happened to amplify the emergency alert tone thru the stereo system because it amplifys what ever comes thru the headphone jack, The Radio has no way of "knowing" thats an emergency alert signal it just hears "sound" and amplifys it thru the speakers. im sure someone could come up with a solution for this by writing a third party app? and using a bluetooth connection over 3,5 mlli metre audio jack?
 

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I experienced the same issue. I heard the amber alert come through my car speakers. I was only connected via Bluetooth but was listening to the regular radio. It was as if my phone had silently rang and I clicked to answer the call. Of course, it was not a call and I did nothing - it just started playing the alert noise followed by reading the message.
 

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I have a few comments/questions.

1. Is it not possible for the police to call the person's cell phone before issuing an amber alert? After all the man turned himself in immediately upon hearing the amber alert. Would he not have done the same if the police (or someone else) had called him?

2. The papers listed the car as a Mercedes SLK, however, the sample picture I saw was a CLS and another paper said it was a BLK (which doesn't exist). C'mon people is it that difficult to get the car model correct? There is a huge difference between a CLS and SLK.



3. For those people hearing a loud klaxon on their phones (or "paired" car speakers) when the amber alert is issued, it is certainly quite loud, but I can turn it down (or off) on my iPhone 5S so it is not so jarring, or even inaudible. (Use vibrate?) I realize this is not an option for some people, but if you don't wish to be disturbed while driving (which should be the default), then there are options on most phones or car audio systems.
 

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I got the alert in Québec, while driving 100kph. It took over my car’s hands-free system.
Was he listening to the radio? I'm not familiar with the integrated Bluetooth systems in newer cars, and my 2005 doesn't have it. But I have an FM MP3 player with Bluetooth and listen to my tunes all the time when driving. If a call comes in to the phone in my pocket, it switches to the ring tone and I can either answer or decline. Since my phone is 3G non-LTE, I would not get the alerts, but if I did, they would be at the volume of my stereo, if it was turned on. So I would presume in a new car the Bluetooth receives calls even if the stereo is not in use. But what is the volume? Is it where your stereo was last set? Or are these alerts at a higher volume, like TV commercials?
 

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CRTC investigating the inconsistency of cellphone alerts among devices

Canada’s telecom regulator is studying how various phones respond to emergency alerts after receiving complaints that the alarms override silent modes on some devices and not others.

The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) has tested smartphones to identify which generate audible alarms when set to the silent, airplane or do-not-disturb modes...

Some good news? Article may be behind G&M paywall. Other papers may have the information unlocked, but a quick search didn't find any...


Of course, this may take some time.... ;)
 

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Was he listening to the radio? I'm not familiar with the integrated Bluetooth systems in newer cars, and my 2005 doesn't have it. But I have an FM MP3 player with Bluetooth and listen to my tunes all the time when driving. If a call comes in to the phone in my pocket, it switches to the ring tone and I can either answer or decline. Since my phone is 3G non-LTE, I would not get the alerts, but if I did, they would be at the volume of my stereo, if it was turned on. So I would presume in a new car the Bluetooth receives calls even if the stereo is not in use. But what is the volume? Is it where your stereo was last set? Or are these alerts at a higher volume, like TV commercials?
On my 12 year old car, I use a Bluetooth to 3.5mm jack for music/podcast playing, which I was using at the time. It also has builtin Bluetooth handsfree calling.

The way it works in my car is that the handsfree calling is used for calls, regardless of the stereo (the two are completely independent). The volume is set for that feature, adjusted for ambient road noise.

If I receive a call, it is handled by the car and not the stereo system, and I can accept (or reject) calls from my steering wheel. I can also dial out and use handsfree voice assistants.

If I don't have sound playing from my phone, it is also used for GPS directions automatically.

3. For those people hearing a loud klaxon on their phones (or "paired" car speakers) when the amber alert is issued, it is certainly quite loud, but I can turn it down (or off) on my iPhone 5S so it is not so jarring, or even inaudible. (Use vibrate?) I realize this is not an option for some people, but if you don't wish to be disturbed while driving (which should be the default), then there are options on most phones or car audio systems.
I had Do Not Disturb while driving enabled on my phone. it completely bypassed that, which is what I prefer in situations where my life or other lives might be at risk. What I had absolutely hate is that annoying noise; even my home's fire alarm system is less agressive.
 

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The last time I had an alert in the car I heard the first couple seconds on the radio station. It then got interrupted by the phone which was connected by bluetooth as if a call was being made. There was no music being played from the device or any streaming at the time. If there were any gaps in the phone squaking the radio alert kicked back in and then it went back to the phone. At times it was like the radio and phone were battling it out over which alert should be heard.
 

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So this is interesting. A Tornado warning was issued for London. I got a phone call and text from the City of London automated alert system indicating there was a tornado warning and to take shelter. Not once did my phone squawk. Isn't a tornado warning the exact situation where the Emergency Alert system should have been used.
 

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I got both thunderstorm and tornado warnings in Mississauga. I was out on my balcony when the storm blew through. Lots of wind, rain and thunder.
 

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Four POTS phone calls, 2 for the alert, 2 for the cancellation. One cell phone alert on one phone, not the other (both have LTE.) Plus a TV alert. A little rain and thunder but not much else. Checked the weather radar and most of the sever storms were north and south of the city, not much shown or forecast for the city itself.
 

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We got the tornado warning in Guelph. At the time I was watching the approaching front on weather radar and I think the warning was a good thing. 20 minutes later when the storm passed over our house it was bad enough that I would not have wanted to be out driving in it in our Honda Fit. No tornado and all the trees in my street all survived. The storm lasted about 10 minutes and then it was completely calm.

The first emergency alert that was of any meaning or interest to me.


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LTE phones will only get the alerts if they are actually connected to an LTE signal at the moment the alert goes out. 4G is not the same, and it's what devices fall-back to when LTE isn't strong enough. The maps and marketing from the providers make sure that it's impossible to know this difference exists, therefore users are confused.

I have one of my phones locked to LTE, and it is usually able to get the alerts well beyond what my other stock phone considers to be LTE coverage, except when i travel to any of the many areas of rural Manitoba where LTE still doesn't exist. NOT getting the tornado warnings while I'm driving in tornado areas that have no LTE is SUPER scary!
 

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LTE phones will only get the alerts if they are actually connected to an LTE signal at the moment the alert goes out. 4G is not the same, and it's what devices fall-back to when LTE isn't strong enough. The maps and marketing from the providers make sure that it's impossible to know this difference exists, therefore users are confused.
???

LTE is 4G. When it first came out, LTE was referred to as "4G Lite", as it didn't meet the full 4G spec, but has advanced considerably since then. LTE is between 3G and 5G (Incidentally, I was working on the Rogers LTE rollout back in 2011.). While I agree that marketing has muddied the terms, both represent the same network. Now, the carriers are rolling out 5G. I wonder what they'll call 5G Lite.

BTW, if you check the Rogers network coverage map, you can select 4G LTE or HSPA+ (3G). So, it would appear Rogers is calling LTE and 4G the same thing.
 

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Yeah, some phones display the icon as 4g, some as LTE. Depends on the maker/provider

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???

LTE is 4G. When it first came out, LTE was referred to as "4G Lite", as it didn't meet the full 4G spec, but has advanced considerably since then. LTE is between 3G and 5G (Incidentally, I was working on the Rogers LTE rollout back in 2011.). While I agree that marketing has muddied the terms, both represent the same network. Now, the carriers are rolling out 5G. I wonder what they'll call 5G Lite.

BTW, if you check the Rogers network coverage map, you can select 4G LTE or HSPA+ (3G). So, it would appear Rogers is calling LTE and 4G the same thing.
Yes they are calling them the same thing, BUT all of the phones i've tested all show "4g" while connected to hspa+/umts network(same thing), then show LTE when connected to LTE signals.This is the discrepancy that drives me to insanity when people ask me about the performance of their devices at certain places and "4g" comes up.

Alerts never come through when devices are showing "4g", that I've seen so far. The caveat here is that I seem to only have various classes of Samsung devices available to me, so perhaps other brands are actually behaving differently. Are other devices not displaying LTE when thusly connected? What do they display when connected to HSPA+?

I've driven around my area a little bit, testing out how the networks are performing using two devices (samsung Galaxy S8 forced to HSPA(wcdma technically), and a Galaxy A5(2017) forced to LTE which avoids the samsung API fault for wcdma rssi readings stuck at -51 cellmapper data collection effort . Otherwise, these devices agree exactly when similarly configured.
 

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My Pixel 2 shows LTE. I don't recall ever seeing 4G.

Here's a little info from Wikipedia: LTE Advanced

LTE Advanced is a mobile communication standard and a major enhancement of the Long Term Evolution (LTE) standard. It was formally submitted as a candidate 4G to ITU-T in late 2009 as meeting the requirements of the IMT-Advanced standard, and was standardized by the 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) in March 2011 as 3GPP Release 10.


Note the years 2009 & 2011. It's now 2020. So yeah, LTE and 4G are the same thing. Also, the big difference between 4G or LTE and earlier tech is everything is now IP, whereas while 3G used packets, it was not IP for voice.

Did you mean 3G or 4G when talking about HSPA? HSPA is definitely 3G, which could use IP for data, but used GSM CODECs over non IP packets for voice. LTE/4G supports a variety of CODECs, including Hi Def voice. This is what provides Voice over LTE (VoLTE). And because VoLTE uses IP, adding WiFi calling is easy.
 

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Thank you carrier marketing for this confusing situation.

North American phones will show LTE when connected to a 4G/LTE network.
They will show 3G (or 4G or HSPA or something else) when connected to a 3G network.

European phones will show 4G (or LTE) for 4G/LTE and 3G for 3G networks.

And a side-note, if you connect to 4G/LTE-Advanced on AT&T, your phone might show 5Ge.


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@Ed7789 , that's not consistent for North American vs. European phones.

My ASUS phone shows 4G when it's connected to LTE (Bell/Telus network in Ontario) and H+ when connected to HSDPA. It may be due to it being a Global vs. NA-specific model... or because it's a 4+ year-old phone. ;)
 
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