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Due to the numerous threads on the DSR 500 and common issues to all interested in the DSR 500, we'll try to get all discussion going here.
DSR 500 Discussion
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OK - I'll start it off
The firmware in the DSR500 is CRAP. This is the worse excuse for programming that Motorola has ever foisted on the public.
If 1 had never been exposed to satellite previously, they could be excused for surmizing that the DSR500 was released prior to to the 4XX/3XX or 4DTV 92X receivers - or even prior to the mid 80's Motorola predecessor GI C Band receivers.
Obviously, there is lots of horsepower in the 5XX series hardware, but the programmers are inexperienced, sloppy and Motorola certainly does not have a "Best Practices" program in place.
It reminds me of Echostar - you never meet an Echostar receiver owner who is not a beta tester - fix 1 problem, create 2 new ones.
While a certain amount of lockups are understandable in a new product built from the ground up, the # of hours that SC has paid employees (+ customers lost) to deal with these issues must be staggering.
An example of some of the user friendly features on 4XX series, that Motorola "improved" on:
1) a remote that is so sensitive that it enters the number twice if you don't use exactly the right finger pressure (Use this remote on a UHF equipped 4XX series receiver and you will see that the remote works flawlessly - so it's just another 5XX problem)
2) requiring a "password" for parental control lockout use - why? In 3xx/4XX receivers - no password is required - one can make a IPG of their own choosing
3) Stopping at lock outed channels when using the "Up/Down" rocker switch. This is a real treat - requiring the user to curser to the "cancel" icon. What is the point of this?
4) Eliminating the "Future" button from the IPG. Yep - sure is a lot easier to hit the VCR forward button a number of times (it only moves ahead 6 hours each time). That's certainly easier then selecting the day like the 4XX/3XX receivers do - NOT
5) Gawd awful IPG fonts - much harder to read than older receivers - no way to change font colour
6) Interests search showing you programming from all available channels - not just channels in the IPG like 4XX/3XX do - again - what is the point?
I'm sure other users can add to this list.
Motorola had better be releasing a far better version for the DSR530 or SC will lose even more customers after it's release.
The firmware in the DSR500 is CRAP. This is the worse excuse for programming that Motorola has ever foisted on the public.
If 1 had never been exposed to satellite previously, they could be excused for surmizing that the DSR500 was released prior to to the 4XX/3XX or 4DTV 92X receivers - or even prior to the mid 80's Motorola predecessor GI C Band receivers.
Obviously, there is lots of horsepower in the 5XX series hardware, but the programmers are inexperienced, sloppy and Motorola certainly does not have a "Best Practices" program in place.
It reminds me of Echostar - you never meet an Echostar receiver owner who is not a beta tester - fix 1 problem, create 2 new ones.
While a certain amount of lockups are understandable in a new product built from the ground up, the # of hours that SC has paid employees (+ customers lost) to deal with these issues must be staggering.
An example of some of the user friendly features on 4XX series, that Motorola "improved" on:
1) a remote that is so sensitive that it enters the number twice if you don't use exactly the right finger pressure (Use this remote on a UHF equipped 4XX series receiver and you will see that the remote works flawlessly - so it's just another 5XX problem)
2) requiring a "password" for parental control lockout use - why? In 3xx/4XX receivers - no password is required - one can make a IPG of their own choosing
3) Stopping at lock outed channels when using the "Up/Down" rocker switch. This is a real treat - requiring the user to curser to the "cancel" icon. What is the point of this?
4) Eliminating the "Future" button from the IPG. Yep - sure is a lot easier to hit the VCR forward button a number of times (it only moves ahead 6 hours each time). That's certainly easier then selecting the day like the 4XX/3XX receivers do - NOT
5) Gawd awful IPG fonts - much harder to read than older receivers - no way to change font colour
6) Interests search showing you programming from all available channels - not just channels in the IPG like 4XX/3XX do - again - what is the point?
I'm sure other users can add to this list.
Motorola had better be releasing a far better version for the DSR530 or SC will lose even more customers after it's release.
Well,
I am an ExpressVU 6100 owner and well it works mostly as it should.
In regards to the DSR 530. I doubt the software will be any different than what you see in the DSR 500.
Quite recently, Motorola bought Ucentric the software development company who was working on the "Whole Home" software of VOOMS DSR 580.
This means that any future Motorola receivers will benefit tremendously from this acquisition..... but not soon enough for the DSR 530 unfortunately.
Crispy
I am an ExpressVU 6100 owner and well it works mostly as it should.
In regards to the DSR 530. I doubt the software will be any different than what you see in the DSR 500.
Quite recently, Motorola bought Ucentric the software development company who was working on the "Whole Home" software of VOOMS DSR 580.
This means that any future Motorola receivers will benefit tremendously from this acquisition..... but not soon enough for the DSR 530 unfortunately.
Crispy
Hello!Crispy said:
Motorola did acquire Ucentric recently but I thought They did have a cooperation together for the last year or so. I thought parts of the DSR500's firmware was develloped by Ucentric.
This would meen that the DSR530 would get a better part of the firmware from Ucentric. Even then, they could upgrade the firmware later on, directly in the DSR530 with *C download. The purchase of Ucentric by Moto was only a financial transfer. The DSR530 has hardware in already to get the firmware upgrade. It looks more and more like the BEV5220 but with HD capability. (and less bugs
)Well, that's what I thought. I may be wrong all the way. Oh, I guess i'm in the wrong thread. sorry guys!
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Well said 987654321:
Don't forget about the Program Guide, while you search on it and want to tune into a channel you hit enter, then you have three choices instead of just changing to that channel. You have to press up three times to "TUNE TO CHANNEL". If this must be there have tune to channel as the default so you just have to hit enter twice.
Don't forget about the Program Guide, while you search on it and want to tune into a channel you hit enter, then you have three choices instead of just changing to that channel. You have to press up three times to "TUNE TO CHANNEL". If this must be there have tune to channel as the default so you just have to hit enter twice.
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studlygoorite said:
Oops, either they fixed it or I was wrong, just does it for future programs.
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The latest software version which I believe 03.42.70 is much buggier then the previous version. I'm finding my receiver is locking up a lot more then before. The extra sensitive remote is very annoying. I don't think that will ever get fixed on the DSR500 model. The last time I spoke to a tech rep at StarChoice they said they had solved about 95% of the bugs on the receiver. I don't believe that for a second. I think they correct 1 bug and create two more with every new software release.
Some of the CSRs have said that they now have DSR530 in the call centres and that they have a completely different software then the current DSR500. Seem's really counter intuative to have 3 radically different versions of the guide.
Some of the CSRs have said that they now have DSR530 in the call centres and that they have a completely different software then the current DSR500. Seem's really counter intuative to have 3 radically different versions of the guide.
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satellite said:From what I've been told, the DSR530 software is identical to the DSR500 in look and feel...the only difference is that it WORKS.
We should be able to trade our DSR500s in for a DSR530 then!!!
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I've been told that the software is completely different then the 500 by several CSR's Not a single one has said the software is the same as the 500 and thats both at the technical and customer service level.
Several Csr told me the same. 160Gb, DVI (wich they don't know if it will be active at "roll-out") and the Guide is different. To use the same guide as dsr500 would meen it is of the same firmware and still has bugs.
They have been collaborating with Ucentric(maybe for the last year) and bought out the company in jan. My guess would be Moto will put Ucentric's firmware in the 530. That firmware is more stable and offers more features (Ucentric's word on that). Further more, Ucentric has a dual tv feed firmware (like Bev's 5220) and a pc version comming.
Click here for Ucentric overview in pdf
I know, it's only speculation but i'd wager that Moto bought Ucentric so they can use that firmware somewhere in there pvr receivers.
Your guess is as good as mine. I may be completely off track. *C doesn't say much but it will come soon! They already installed my second line from the dish to feed the 530. I'd bet on a march roll-out
They have been collaborating with Ucentric(maybe for the last year) and bought out the company in jan. My guess would be Moto will put Ucentric's firmware in the 530. That firmware is more stable and offers more features (Ucentric's word on that). Further more, Ucentric has a dual tv feed firmware (like Bev's 5220) and a pc version comming.
Click here for Ucentric overview in pdf
I know, it's only speculation but i'd wager that Moto bought Ucentric so they can use that firmware somewhere in there pvr receivers.
Your guess is as good as mine. I may be completely off track. *C doesn't say much but it will come soon! They already installed my second line from the dish to feed the 530. I'd bet on a march roll-out
not sure if this matters, but i have owned a dsr500 for about 2 weeks and it has already been replaced with a new one by *c cause i had so many issues with the first one, that they determined it was defective....
anyhow, they also told me that there is a new version of the software coming soon?... version 74...
2 things they said it will fix? is that the 500 will have caller id now on screen and the clock on front will no longer be in the 24hr format..... big deal.....
why are the audio/video front inputs not active on the dsr500?....
anyhow, they also told me that there is a new version of the software coming soon?... version 74...
2 things they said it will fix? is that the 500 will have caller id now on screen and the clock on front will no longer be in the 24hr format..... big deal.....
why are the audio/video front inputs not active on the dsr500?....
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Billy34 said:
You have no idea how happy those two features will make me!
I hate the 24hr clock (I was 2 minutes away from posting a thread asking if it could be changed) and I really miss the caller id feature when I upgraded to the 500.
Different features for different people I guess.
Derek
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version 74
Anyone know when we can expect software Version 74 to be released?
Anyone know when we can expect software Version 74 to be released?
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My DSR 500 just started acting up
My DSR 500 has been running so well for the past 2 months but sice yesterday I have to reboot it many times per. HD channels lose audio constantly. It is as if the firmware got rolled back to the factory version. What is the latest version supposed to be?
My DSR 500 has been running so well for the past 2 months but sice yesterday I have to reboot it many times per. HD channels lose audio constantly. It is as if the firmware got rolled back to the factory version. What is the latest version supposed to be?
Latest Version
The latest version is what the techs at *c refer to as "hex 70", just means that it ends in .70 . I ask one of them if a new one was coming out, and they said that they had "hex 74" in the call centre and were testing it there. As for your audio drop outs, I asked about this myself, and it appears as if its a known issue, and that they have been collecting info on it and working to find and correct the issue, dunno how long thats gonna take though
The latest version is what the techs at *c refer to as "hex 70", just means that it ends in .70 . I ask one of them if a new one was coming out, and they said that they had "hex 74" in the call centre and were testing it there. As for your audio drop outs, I asked about this myself, and it appears as if its a known issue, and that they have been collecting info on it and working to find and correct the issue, dunno how long thats gonna take though
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