[Lyzic]

Able to connect 630 with only 1 coax?

Hi,

I'm trying to help out my father-in-law connect the 630 (Changed from 603) PVR we bought him for his birthday.

The problem is we didn't know it took two coax cables. There is an extra spot available on the LNB so that isn't a problem.

The problem is that his entire house is wired with only 1 coax cable. It'll be a ton of work to run an extra cable.

I'm wondering if there is a solution to run the necessary signals we need down a single coax?

Would a diplexer work?

Thanks so much!!

 

[skifan]

Unfortunately you need two cables. A splitter or diplexer is not an option with the 630.

 

[gzink]

Also its a 630 so search on that might help???

 

[SomeTech]

Do not do any crazy work-around for it. The only thing that will help you is a multiswitch if you have no lines available on the LNB - otherwise, run the line.

It might take some time to run, but it will work properly. If you ever need a service call and a technicians sees any wiring other than standard, they will charge you to fix the issue. Nothing good can come from a work around. Do it properly the first time, and you'll be set.

 

[46FD04]

@ Lyzic

NO you cannot split satellite signal.

You will see splitters at Home Depot that say digital satellite on them, but DON'T use them.

The ONLY solution is running a 2nd coax cable.

When you do, make sure you use RG6 coax, not the older RG59 TV coax.

 

[Lyzic]

Damn I was really hoping there was a solution that didn't involve pulling siding off and drywalling!

Thanks for all the answers guy/gals, really appreciate it! I probably would of banged my head against a wall trying to get a diplexer to work otherwise.

 

[DrSat]

For your reference, diplexers only allow you to combine OTA or Cable TV on one input with Satellite on the other input and then separate these two sources afterwards. You can't combine two satellite sources using a diplexer.


Regards,

Dr. Sat

 

[46FD04]

U shouldn't have to pull off siding and drywall.

Just get yourself a good long spade bit, and drill straight thru the wall from the inside.

But remember, measure three times and drill once; get it right the first time.

Be careful of electrical lines, etc...

Use a stud finder to find the studs too.

Good luck.

 

[kcowan]

If the second coax is impossible, get him a TiVo.

 

[placasse47]

Reading thru all discussions on the subject, is it finally possible to split one Shaw cable that comes fron a switch box into 2 signals so it can feed the 2 inputs of a Shaw PVR?

Can someone confirm that the use of a splitter that let the DC passes thru would actually fix the issue of having only half of the channels available on PVR?

It is very important for me to get a definite answer on this since I cannot get an additional cable from the SW.

Thank you

Pierre

 

[BGY11]

Are you talking about Shaw Cable, or Shaw Direct? (satellite).

Shaw Cable PVRs only use one coax cable that plugs into the back.

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[Wizzmer]

I just moved into a new 'finished' home previously outfitted for Rogers Digital and I'm in the same boat as you. My installer said running a 2nd line to the HDPVR 630 was not going to be possible due to location and finished walls and ceiling everywhere but did say that SHAW are BETA testing a new splitter. As I understand it, you MUX 2 lines from the big 4x8 switch into one and then at the back of your HDPVR 630, you basically DEMUX (split) them into 2 again using a new splitter. These two new short lines connector to your HDPVR 630 but I'll know more in a day or so when they complete the installation in my home.

They said they had to do something as they were losing business to BELL and ROGERS because their receivers had multiple tuners yet only needed 1 coax line to operate properly. Running multiple lines from the splitter to each PVR was just plain stupid and many customers complained.

 

[57]

I've moved this thread to the Shaw Direct (Satellite) forum (and changed the title obviously). It was originally posted in the Shaw Cable forum, which uses totally different technology. I suggest people familiarize themselves with the differences and also review the various installation threads in this forum because the two are totally different.

It's also a good idea to say what equipment you're using, your location and your provider. See the following:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/14-...estions-please-read-before-posting-forum.html

 

[JasperJoe]

My Shaw Direct PVR dual-tuner receiver uses TWO coaxes. The Bell one it replaced used ONE.

 

[robbie3130]

Please keep us posted on this, I would like to get the DVR but only have 1 coax run to it's location .. seems kind of stupid you can't disable the second tuner.

 

[ExDilbert]

Until several years ago, Bell dual tuner PVRs required two cables as well. Dishnet (aka EchoStar,) the company that supplies Bell with receivers, developed the new technology that reduced the number of cables required some time ago. Bell waited several years before adopting the new technology so having just one cable for a dual tuner Bell PVR is fairly recent for them.

As far as I know, the current supplier of Shaw Direct receivers (Motorola) has no corresponding technology. Because Motorola uses a proprietary encryption technology and the market is very small, it would be very expensive for Shaw to develop new receiver technology or switch suppliers. Due to this, Shaw Direct is almost at a dead end when it comes to developing and introducing new receivers that incorporate significant new technology.

 

[robbie3130]

Apparently the current generation pvr supports it, and Shaw makes the switch.. just hard to get it.. could be still in testing or only for commercial or something


6 Channel CSS Multiswitch

 

[CrispyPotato]

If they supply the switch, you'd figure they'd make it easy for people to get. After-all, if you can install the PVR with only one line, that would help them keep up with Bell who can do this.

 

[RuralRouter]

I have a neighbor that has a similar problem. There is a market for this technology!

Maybe Shaw Direct is beta testing and/or a difficulty in manufacturing in quantity at a decent price.

 

[ExDilbert]

Shaw just may not want to support the new technology due to cost or availability. (Knowing how Shaw operates, it's probably all about cost.) Bell did the same for several years. Individuals could by the corresponding Dishnet technology as surplus on eBay but Bell still had a large supplu of the old parts so that's what they installed. Shaw may be in the same position. They probably won't supply the new stuff until they are forced to. In the meantime, it might be possible for individuals to source the new equipment on eBay or from a company that supplies it. Some Shaw installers might even have it available if asked. Just don't expect Shaw to pay for installation or service.

PS: The actual technology for stacking the signals on one cable is built into the LNB for Dishnet equipment. The switch simply supports it and is not required for only one receiver. Don't know how the Motorola stuff works but it makes more sense to put it into a switch. Otherwise, a redesigned LNB that is very specific to Shaw Direct would be required.