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Cogeco HD Channels using Built in ATSC/QAM Tuner

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Hello to all,

I'm new to the HDTV World (ain't christmas great!).

Heres whats happening - my TV has an ATSC Tuner, and when I scan the cable I get a whole bunch of SD (480i) and 1 HD (A&E HD @ 720p) channel.

Looks like the same channels as basic cable?

They are sitting @ 87-X, 89-X and 90-X

As far as I'm concerned its all good - I just haven't seen any other posts on this?

Just curious about whats happening, is this a cogeco service that is supported - or is it just there? or will it go "poof" and disappear someday?
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I just hooked up my t.v. to the cable to test for signal. I'm an internet customer only, but decided to check and see if I could receive signal. Turns out I can. Analogue and various digital channels, as mentioned in this thread.

I'm wondering if I could use a cable box of some sort to route the signal to the t.v. Sharp only puts one coax connector on the t.v. and I want to use that for OTA.
You could purchase a separate QAM tuner to get the channels you currently get on your TV via the QAM tuner, but realize they could be encrypted/changed at any time. Also Cogeco could add an analogue filter and you'd get roughly analogue channels 2-6...

No "cable boxes" will work (save analogue), except for the ones from Cogeco or their authorized distributors and it'd need to be activated by Cogeco and you'd need to pay for TV.
Does anyone have a list of channels from Cogeco in Windsor, ON? All I know for sure is that the 85, 86 and 87 subchannels (1-10) are the OnDemand channels that my neighbours order.
Here you go

Here is a list for Windsor. I noticied that TSN2 comes and goes. Also the channel numbers are hard to remember, and for my TV you can't edit a digital channel name. So the channel list does not help you. But the picture is far better than it's analogue counter part.

78-90 Food Network
78-92 Star
78-96 MTV Canada
82-71 Ontario Government
83-68 French
84-156 TSN2
86-10 ????
88-151 Sportsnet East
88-152 Sportsnet West
88-153 Sportsnet Pacific
88-555 TV Tropolis
89-3 Global
89-7 CITY TV
89-10 CHCH
89-939 Weather Network
89-941 A Channel
89-948 MY Network TV
89-967 ???
90-4 ???
90-78 CBS
90-79 ABC
90-80 NBC
90-81 PBS
90-927 ???
90-945 Fox
90-946 ???
90-947 ???
91-17 Muchmusic
91-36 Score
91-57 Slice
91-70 CTV Newsnet
91-98 MTV Canada
92-12 CBC
92-28 CBC Newsnetwork
92-40 The Shopping Channel
92-60 ???
92-66 ???
92-73 ???
92-922 TSN
92-951 Homeshow
93-2 TV Ontario
93-56 CPAC
93-58 Religious
93-86 TV5 French
100-118 Gameshow Network
100-185 Religious
100-186 Religious
108-151 Sporsnet Ontario
109-67 RDI French
109-177 DIY Network
112-87 Teletoon Retro
114-142 ???
115-27 YTV
115-91 VIVA
115-93 Business News Network
117-97 CPAC
117-184 Religious
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I use to get movie network and and various other pay channels and on demand channels on channels 79.1 to 81.10. I believe because of the QAM tuner in my Philips TV using analog feed. They're now gone. Nothing in the last 3 days.Did Cogeco catch on and encrypt. Anybody else experience this.
I use to get movie network and and various other pay channels and on demand channels on channels 79.1 to 81.10. I believe because of the QAM tuner in my Philips TV using analog feed. They're now gone. Nothing in the last 3 days.Did Cogeco catch on and encrypt. Anybody else experience this.
Yes the same has happened to me! Just in the last 3 days ... I live in the Milton area.
crockett18 said:
Here is a list for Windsor. I noticied that TSN2 comes and goes. Also the channel numbers are hard to remember, and for my TV you can't edit a digital channel name. So the channel list does not help you. But the picture is far better than it's analogue counter part.
Thank you crockett18, much appreciated. I noticed that 85-1 to 85-10, 86-1 to 86-10, and 87-1 to 87-10 were the OnDemand channels from my neighbours, but in the past week and a half or so they've all been scrambled/weak. Either they stopped watching things on-demand or Cogeco is finally scrambling them.

Also the 104-290s and 105-290s seem to be HD PPV channels, but it scrambles them right before the movie actually begins. I know it's HD because there's that little "High Definition Pay-Per-View" bumper that runs 5 minutes before a movie starts, and when I click Info on it, it says it's 1080i, as opposed to the 480i for the rest of the cable channels.

I can't seem to get TSN2, TeleToon Retro or the DIY Network. Could this just be a problem with the signal strength of my cable wires? We've had cable in the walls for almost 20 years now, so the cable in the walls that we use is getting up there in age. If I were to split the line from the outside and then run the new line directly to my HDTV would that mean I could get those channels (since the signal strength would be improved) or do those channels just come and go as they please so you kind of have to be lucky when you want to watch them?
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Cogeco

I don't have TSN2, DIY and teletoon retro. I did at one time, but not now.

I also don't get any the VOD channels, some of those are scanned, but nothing there.
Hello all. I'm in the market for a new TV. I noticed some TV's online have an ATSC tuner while others have an ATSC/QAM. The more expensive ones seem to have the latter. What channels would a TV pick up with just an ATSC, and what channels would a TV pick up with an ATSC and a QAM?
Is there a big difference in the number of channels, quality etc?

PS This is Hamilton/with a basic analogue cable package from Cogeco.
For QAM channels, please read the posts earlier in this thread, starting at post 2 and the link there regarding QAM. QAM is for unencrypted cable and the channels you'd get would depend on your exact location, as discussed in this thread. These channels could disappear at any time from a QAM tuner if Cogeco decides to encrypt them.

ATSC is for OTA (over the air) and you'd need an antenna to receive OTA. Please check out the OTA forum here if that interests you and start with the stickies because there's lots of info for OTA, along with reception results for your location.


See also the following post, useful for those new to the forum - FAQs, Search Tips, Optimization, etc:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=57741
For what it's worth, here at the East Hamilton, Stoney Creek boarder, we are on a digital HD Promo. I very recently (like a few days ago) did a QAM cable scan. The QAM channels, were cryptically numbered, didn't follow any order, and had all of the channels that you'd get with the top tier of analogue on QAM streams mixed in with music channels. There used to be other channels that weren't part of the analogue package that showed up, and a lot of them now don't decode, obviously encrypted. And that first scan was roughly a year ago. So, this only amplifies 57's remarks pertaining to the fact that QAM is very dynamic, and I wouldn't base a buying decision on QAM channels that a person might get in your area. It could all change tomorrow..... Literally.

For Cogeco, "Digital Basic" gets all the analogue channels of the top analogue tier, and a few extra channels, plus access to Pay-Per-Use content that is offered via the required STB.

Hope this helps.

Cameron
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I recently bought a Samsung Plasma and when I had the TV search to locate channels a bunch of extra ones came up. This was after simply attaching the cable from my wall to the TV. Downstairs I have the basic digital receiver, and that is the basic digital plus 1 package which is sports.

Somehow the TV found a bunch of extras, but most notable was 6 or 7 channels in the Sports package, and so far I have been able to watch games on the NHL Centre Ice Package.

My question is if anybody knows how I can search to find the rest of these channels? I would like obviously like to have them all available. If it makes a difference I am in Kingston.
QAM tuner issue

Cogeco pipes in basic cable channels into my house, even though I don't subscribe to them. I've routed my cable signal to my htpc Avermedia tuner card. When I scan my cable channels, I only get 6 or 7 stations coming through. The Avermedia tuner software finds a pile of other stations, but these have a "locked" icon beside them, and can't be viewed.

However, my Samsung TV upstairs can scan many more basic channels on the cable signal (I'm guessing 30 or so).

Anyone understand why so little clear QAM channels get picked up by my tuner card, yet much more get picked up by my TV's built-in QAM tuner ? Any advice on how to correct this problem ?
TV picks up digital and analogue channels, tuner card only digital? More details may be helpful - which channels you're getting on one vs the other?
I have one of the new Panasonic TV's with a Digital tuner & did a recent scan for available channels as Cogeco has been changing things around ,it picked up 115 Digital stations, some of these are of course Audio only. A while back when they had that free preview of Discovery World HD I was able to watch that using the digital tuner & it was in HD.
Question

Hi,

A bit more than a year ago I bought myself a LCD HDTV, pretty much for the sole purpose to use with my PS3. I have basic analog cable and I have that connected to the back of my television. I can watch the analog SD channels, but boy they didn't look good. When the weather gets cold they look really bad. However, a few months ago I stumbled across this forum and discovered what the decimal point on my remote control meant, essentially that my TV has a QAM tuner. I've been able to find most digital equivalent's of the channels in the basic analog package (along with a few extra channels) and I've been pretty happy.

I had noticed a few weeks ago that Global was no longer on 83.1 but had moved to 109.1 and this got me wondering if any new channels had become available. So I started poking around the Internet today and Cogeco's wikipedia page said that Global HD was showing clear in Kingston on 102-715. At around 5:45 today I tuned into 102.2 and there it was, 1080i Global National. I was pretty happy until about 3 minutes later when it just stopped. Did I just have bad luck and Cogeco just happened to yank this channel 3 minutes after I discovered it or is this an intermittent signal? Does cold weather affect reception? It hasn't with the 480i digital channels.

Also, when people list QAM frequencies of channels I usually notice stuff like 102-715 however, it seems to be impossible to type that in on my remote. First I only have a decimal point and second the decimal range is anywhere from .1 to sometimes .17. Are things just done differently with Sharp televisions?

Thanks,
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TV picks up digital and analogue channels, tuner card only digital? More details may be helpful - which channels you're getting on one vs the other?
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As an example, TSN (94-59) and CTV newsnet (94-70) are Cogeco digital channels which are received properly by my Samsung TV. These two channels do not appear when scanned by my avermedia tuner card. Is there a trick to making the avermedia tune them in ?
I also have a Samsung TV with QAM receiver it picked up the free preview channels last month but I do not have them for this month. Does anyone know this months free preview channel numbers for Windsor?
Sony Bravia KDL-40S4100 QAM tuner compatible?

Hi,
I live in Asbestos Qc and my cable provider is Cogeco, Qc

My TV set is a Sony Bravia KDL-40S4100, this TV is suposed to have a build-in NTSC/ATSC/QAM tuner. But some channel like PBS (33) and Discovery channel (34) are not available.

Recently i receive from Cogeco a PACE DC50X converter. This converter give me all channel i actually receive includind PBS and Discovery channel plus some more new, like TAC channel.

My question is :
Why is my Sony Bravia KDL-40S4100, is not capable to tune-in with PBS and Discovery channel ?
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If you're tuning the other channels mentioned in this thread, then my guess would be that Cogeco is encrypting those channels in your area. If you take the time to read through this thread you'll find that the unencrypted channels vary by location.

The other possibility is that those channels are weak and not being tuned, or there is a filter on your line blocking certain signals. It used to be that filters were only there to block analogue signals, however many providers now have filters that do more.
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