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that's not true about two western teams being in the grey cup.one of the first years of cross over when Ottawa was called the rough riders the Winnipeg blue bombers were the cross over team and won the east played Calgary and lost to them
 

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the trouble with the cfl in the east is that the cities that actualy care about the cfl don't have teams and want one.london Windsor Quebec city Halifax and Moncton but the cfl don't care about there future.when I lived in windor there was an American group that tries to buy a franchise for Windsor and play there games in the old tiger stadium but the league was too small thinking to let it happen.until the cfl exspand to all those cities nobdy in the east will care much cause of that stupid cross over rule.
 

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Argos ticket sales surpass 20,000 for East Final against Riders - 3DownNation

Press releases like this are no help for the CFL - the Argos are bragging about selling 20,000 tickets (note the average MLS attendance was 27,000 for Toronto FC this season) for the Eastern FINAL.

Man, if you can't get excited about the conference finals, your fan base is in trouble. If this was any Western team, they would get close to this for a pre-season game. Playoff games would be an easy sell out, especially a final.

I even think two games I went to in Hamilton this year (home opener against BC, and the Labour Day Classic) were sell-outs and the team didn't win a game before either of them occurred.

Toronto has a nice stadium, transportation links (Exhibition Station) within walking distance, it is in a nice area on the lake, has a great tailgating setup (as good as you can get in Canada), concessions are affordable and good, lots of in-stadium entertainment, and still struggle to fill just about 2/3 of the stadium?

If I live near, or in Toronto, I would go to every game - can't figure out why there isn't any fans out of almost 10 million people that could fill the stadium up.
 

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Halifax and Moncton but the cfl don't care about there future
The CFL has looked at those two multiple times. There's no prospective owner and nowhere to play in either city. Moncton's largest venue is 10,000 seats and got up to around 21,000 for Touchdown Atlantic. Halifax doesn't have anything particularly suitable either. Neither city plans to build anything.

It's not really on the league to build a stadium and own a team itself in a market that may or may not even be all that interested.
 

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Press releases like this are no help for the CFL - the Argos are bragging about selling 20,000 tickets ...
can't figure out why there isn't any fans out of almost 10 million people that could fill the stadium up.
And I'll believe it when I see it. Just looking at Ticketmaster, there sure seems to be lots of tickets left in almost every section, the same as other games when I've looked in the last couple of years. Regardless of the attendance numbers they make up and think some people will believe, I'm not sure the number of people actually there for most games would have filled the 5000 seat Varsity Stadium.
http://twitter.com/EmptySeatsPics/status/753381214208323584

They largely stopped attracting new fans about 35 or 40 years ago, as shown by survey results and the advanced age of those who still go.
http://www.thestar.com/sports/2015/12/31/poll-shows-sports-fans-warmed-up-to-blue-jays-but-coldly-indifferent-to-argos.html

Before then the Leafs and Argos were just about the only games in town, but almost everyone since then has grown up in Toronto ignoring the Argos, along with the large percentage of the population who came here from other parts of the world where I assume they probably never heard of the CFL. It's just not realistic to think a large new audience could somehow suddenly appear.
 

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that's not true about two western teams being in the grey cup.one of the first years of cross over when Ottawa was called the rough riders the Winnipeg blue bombers were the cross over team and won the east played Calgary and lost to them
Actually heans, when the Bombers lost to Calgary in the Grey Cup of 2001 they were playing in the Eastern division that year because the Ottawa team had folded. In the 1992 Grey Cup loss to Calgary they were also playing in the Eastern division because the Montreal team had folded. So technically there has never been 2 Western division teams in the Grey Cup game
 

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I have been a RedBlacks season ticket holder since the return in 2014. Always a great atmosphere at TD Place. Sold out almost every game! I will be at the GC game this Sunday!
 

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I rather go to the vanier cup.it doesn't cost you an arm and leg to buy a ticket and the football in university ball is way more exciting than the cfl.this years should be a classic too western verses lavalle.nuber 1 verses number 2 .besides you can stream every Ontario university football and basketball game for free any where in the world for free.the future of sports will be through streaming not by the big cable companies as now
 

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The best part of a Grey Cup is the Stampeder's horse galloping down the sidelines after each TD but Ottawa's venue doesn't have enough space. I hope there's room for heaters at the benches, given late November weather in the world's third coldest capital from November to March.
 

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1988 was the first year two "western" teams played (teams west of Ontario) but Winnipeg still represented the east...
 

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I don't get why they can't accommodate a horse somewhere for Calgary - they should have all the great traditions of the CFL from all teams at the Grey Cup.

They could bring in the Beer Snake from Winnipeg, Watermelons to wear on your head from Saskatchewan, Pigskin Pete from Hamilton, the Lumberjacks from Ottawa, empty seats from Toronto, and cheerleaders with too much make-up from Montreal.

I use to work with a guy that claimed that in the 1970's you could bring in a whole case of beer, or a full cooler of alcohol into CFL games in Montreal and Ottawa. I'm curious if this was true. His claim is that the restriction on bringing in your own alcohol killed the CFL.
 

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Enjoyed the game - but found it funny that the CBC Toronto News didn't mention that the Argos won until 30 minutes into the 6 O'clock news yesterday.

Also, why do other CFL or Toronto teams get parades, where the Argos just get a ceremony at City Hall?
 

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When the Argos won in 2012 (against Calgary, no less), I was in Toronto and they did have a parade. It was short and with not that many participants but a parade nevertheless.
 
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