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Just thought I would start a thread for the 2017 CFL Season.

TSN will be the exclusive broadcaster for all CFL games again this season, with the season starting on June 22nd. Playoff format will be the same as the last few seasons with a cross-over possibility.

The 105th Grey Cup will be on November 26th in Ottawa.

TSN has exclusive rights for regular season games online, and in most markets is the exclusive radio rights holder.

TSN GO will have live and pre-recorded games available again this season.

ESPN will have rights in the U.S. again this season, and assume that it will carry games live until the NFL Pre-Season starts and then start relegating them to ESPN3 or other online platforms.

Pre-Season games will also appear on TSN - those games that are not on TSN may be broadcast online by the teams as in previous seasons.
 

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Also wanted to add some comments on OTT packages as I have talked to both the CFL and TSN:

The CFL has no plans under the contract with TSN to offer a OTT package for CFL fans without TSN subscriptions. They essentially referred every question I had to TSN.

I contacted TSN - it took numerous attempts to get a response from someone at Bell Media. They are not interested in offering a standalone CFL package, and essentially pushed me towards signing up with a TSN GO partner for cable/satellite to receive the games online. I also asked about plans to launch a similar platform to what Sportsnet offers for OTT access, and they are not looking into offering TSN GO to non-cable/satellite subscribers in the near future.

For both the CFL and TSN, I asked to be informed if they change their minds as I would sign-up immediately for a stand-alone OTT service for the league.
 

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Sounds normal, the CBC may not have been as flashy as TSN but just about everybody from coast to coast could watch the games
 

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Is there any chance that someone living outside of Canada and the United States get to see any CFL game? CMIIW, TSN Go can not be subscribed independetly. One therefore needs to subscribe to TSN through Canadian BDU to get on-line access to CFL game.
 

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I've tried using TSN GO outside of Canada, and it doesn't work - you would need a VPN with a Canadian address or route through a Canadian computer so the IP address works for TSN. It also locks your account and you have to reset it with your provider - major pain in the.....

However, I find that ESPN's feeds are easy to access in places like Mexico - however, not all games are available and are delayed.

I've also noticed that BT Sport in the UK has CFL games - usually a few days after and in the middle of the UK night on.

The last few seasons if the game isn't live where I am, I just wait until I get home and watch it either on my DVR or on TSN GO.

It's too bad the CFL doesn't have a service like MLB and the NHL where you can watch the games anywhere in the world without playing games with VPNs or pirate options.
 

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The whole problem with this deal is that Bell is using the CFL as a prop to try and get people to subscribe to TSN. I guess it's good for TSN, but it's not good for the league to tell people without TSN cable (a number that grows every year) "sorry, we're not interested in you." That is not how you get new fans or grow a business.

I mean, they don't even put the Grey Cup on CTV. It's a pretty bad deal for the long term, although I'm sure the short term money is nice.
 

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Tridus: It's a two-way street. This isn't like a normal 'buy' of rights to air games. The CFL needs TSN. The agreement to air every game is costly for TSN but necessary for the league. They need the exposure. If the CFL 'wins', TSN 'wins'.
 

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@ExRobotGuy - I totally agree, but hate that I agree that the CFL needs TSN. TSN essentially is the savior for the CFL as they took the league of life support. As a fan that suffered through the US expansion, and constant threat of teams folding over the years, it has been very stable the last 5-10 years (and I think Toronto is even sorted out with ownership). Two thirds of the league also has new/newly renovated stadiums.

I also think that Toronto's ownership is based on TSN having the rights.

I've been going to Hamilton games since the 80's - to go to a game now, compared to the late 90's is not even the same experience - and I think TSN has a lot to do with propping up franchises like Hamilton.

As much as I would like CBC, or other OTA/Free broadcasts of the CFL, I'll suck it up another year and pay for cable just to get TSN for the games.

However, I am a seasonal subscriber to TSN and cable - I cut the cord soon as the Grey Cup is over.
 

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Profits pure and simple, I say, NO. Next is probability not fact: Bell/TSN have to air 'X' amount of Canadian content. The quality of that content will determine who and how many watch it. Advertisers pay as 'cost per thousands' of viewers. You see the dynamic at play here? It's a symbiotic relationship.

I worked a few CFL games in the 80s and know that the league is protected by TSN [ little neg. comment on-air of officials - players are told to play nice with reporters etc.]


Anyone with facts, please jump in.
 

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The CFL is so sad these days that as a Tiger-Cats fan I'm getting emails from the team offering discounted tickets to the CFL Eastern Finals in Toronto against Saskatchewan.
 

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That might be true for Toronto where CFL is always the black sheep in the city's professional sports landscape. Here in the West, the CFL is as strong as always, particularly now that Western teams are significantly better on average than the Eastern teams.
 

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The CFL Manitoba --> BC is completely different then Ontario/Quebec.

I've been to games in Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver and the atmosphere is completely different then here.

Hamilton's new stadium is good - I have no complaints - but the fans are unknowledgeable about the game and spend a lot of time looking at cell phones and drinking. It could be in a better location (I almost stepped in a pile of used syringes when I parked for the home opener), and the wind is ridiculous giving a directional advantage. I usually get free tickets to most games as well so the cost is pretty low to be a Tiger-Cats fan.

Toronto is sad. I paid more to park at BMO field then I paid for tickets to the game! I went to the Hamilton game there this year and it was 3/4 empty, and the fans were wearing 40% Toronto, 40% Hamilton, and 20% Saskatchewan gear. Very weird vibe for a game, but I do like the stadium, it feels safe around the area, and the Argos do put a lot of time and money into non-football events around the stadium and during the game. Just nobody shows up....wish Hamilton had a stadium and extras like the Argos put on for a gameday experience.

Ottawa - haven't been yet since the Redblacks started playing. The Renegades were my last experience and I don't think it is a fair comparison for the CFL today...

Montreal has the worst stadium I've ever been to. The seating is directly on concrete "steps" with lines painted on them. Absolutely freezing in the cold weather! How this is an improvement over Olympic Stadium, beyond costs, is beyond me. I've never been to a stadium with worst seating.


The games I've been to in Calgary, Edmonton, and Vancouver were completely different experiences - knowledgeable fans, very friendly, and have good fun with a Ti-Cats fan like me. The stadiums were fairly packed with more fans than would fit in any eastern stadium (except Vancouver), and it seemed to have a more professional atmosphere.

When you also read about how bad it is to play for a Eastern team vs. a Western team, it is sad. The training facilities in Montreal are the most pathetic.

I also find it amazing that when you watch a game, all the contests are won by viewers Manitoba west as well.

When I travel out west, the games are on with sound at the bars also - in Ontario, good luck finding a bar with a CFL game on...

It will be a big embarrassment if Saskatchewan wins the Eastern title this weekend, and took the easy road to the Grey Cup by finishing 4th in the West - it should have been an all Alberta Grey Cup in my opinion...
 

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It will be a big embarrassment if Saskatchewan wins the Eastern title this weekend, and took the easy road to the Grey Cup by finishing 4th in the West - it should have been an all Alberta Grey Cup in my opinion...
Been true for years, though. I mean, we had that decade where Montreal was the only consistently competitive team in the East, but at least they were competitive. Now it varies from year to year, but the West is almost always better than the East. Often absurdly so, to the point that the playoff format is Eastern welfare.

IIRC a crossover team hasn't ever made it to the Grey Cup, but this may be the year. To be fair, at least they make that possible.
 

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Let's be honest: the playoff format is ridiculous. Edmonton's reward for beating Saskatchewan out for first was a much tougher road to the Grey Cup. Ridiculous. After the division winners, the rest of the teams should be seeded 3 through 6 and the 3 and 4 seeds should get the home dates.

I agree with @Inglewood above; I took my daughter to a Ti-Cats game last year. The stadium is beautiful. Very well thought out...except for the fact it's in the same horrible spot Ivor Wynne was in. The fans were pretty into it although it was a game where they pasted the Roughriders so tough not to be into it when you're winning.

As for BMO Field, I have been to it to see TFC play. Great place to watch soccer and it was a fun atmosphere and I'm not even a soccer fan. It looks horrifically bad for Argos games. Empty seats everywhere. Embarrassing. Other than a few seasons here and there, the city hasn't embraced the Argos since the Flutie/Pinball days.
 
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