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Almost all of the TV ads on the HD channels are SD. SO I was wondering what you guys do to avoid burn in of those black bars on the sides everytime you get 2-3 min of sd Tv ads.
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They're not on long enough to cause burnin. As long as the bars are not used constantly for all programming, that should not occur.
But I do know of someone who viewed HD in the 4:3 settings and wondered why there was burnin after 9 months. Sad!
But I do know of someone who viewed HD in the 4:3 settings and wondered why there was burnin after 9 months. Sad!
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Please read the Digital Home FAQ on Burn in below:
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=21270
You will see that occasional black bars or logos are acceptable and that you should not be paranoid about burn in, but be aware of it so that you don't get it.
Also, if your TV is set up properly, you're not as likely to get burn in.
Relax. If you're watching varied programming, you'll be fine.
It's people who watch a lot of 4:3 upconverts or have the TV on CNN all day that should be worried.
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=21270
You will see that occasional black bars or logos are acceptable and that you should not be paranoid about burn in, but be aware of it so that you don't get it.
Also, if your TV is set up properly, you're not as likely to get burn in.
Relax. If you're watching varied programming, you'll be fine.
It's people who watch a lot of 4:3 upconverts or have the TV on CNN all day that should be worried.
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Yes, I read the faqs burn in........ I do NOT watch ANY NON HD material on my TV. If I do, Its stretch on Sd channels, never upconverted sd on hd channels with those black bars.
I usually switch channels during the sd TV ads to pbs or some other HD channel for those 2-3 min.
I have all my settings at 50% ( contrast etc)... I have a RP HDTV.
I do play xbox 360 on this TV.
I usually switch channels during the sd TV ads to pbs or some other HD channel for those 2-3 min.
I have all my settings at 50% ( contrast etc)... I have a RP HDTV.
I do play xbox 360 on this TV.
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I think you're going overboard in your concerns. Get yourself a DVR and avoid the commercials.
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I have the shaw HD PVR box. You still get teh TV ads when you record.
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True dat.
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I have a RP CRT and I was initially worried about burn-in on non 16x9 material. However, I have since set the contrast and brightness to sub 50% levels and have not worried about it since.
I watch mostly HD channels but even on the SD channels I am not concerned. The only time I get a little worried is during the weekends if the TV happens to be on for long periods of time on SD material.
I have not had a problem so far and I don't think I will.
I watch mostly HD channels but even on the SD channels I am not concerned. The only time I get a little worried is during the weekends if the TV happens to be on for long periods of time on SD material.
I have not had a problem so far and I don't think I will.
How about a poll?
With all the discussions in various threads regarding burn-in, why don't we launch a poll. Ask - when did you start experiencing burn-in ?
1. within 6 months
2. within 1 year
3. within 2 years
4. after 5 years
5. after 10 years
6. none so far
With all the discussions in various threads regarding burn-in, why don't we launch a poll. Ask - when did you start experiencing burn-in ?
1. within 6 months
2. within 1 year
3. within 2 years
4. after 5 years
5. after 10 years
6. none so far
I've had my CRT RPTV since June 6th 2000, and I have no burn in whatsoever. The tube is showing it's age, but there's been no burn-in...and I've used it for everything from video games (but not obscenely excessive playing), 4x3 TV, and hooked up to an HTPC.
To be fair, since I didn't have HDTV service until 3 years ago, most of what I watched was DVD's, but I mean, if you use a bit of sense, you'll be fine.
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DLP burn-in from lots of 4:3 viewing?
Sorry for newbie question: I've got a Toshiba DLP 44HM85 and my family insists on watching it in 4:3 (analog cable) with black bars on the sides of the screen.
Would that cause a burn-in over a long period of time or not?
Sorry for newbie question: I've got a Toshiba DLP 44HM85 and my family insists on watching it in 4:3 (analog cable) with black bars on the sides of the screen.
Would that cause a burn-in over a long period of time or not?
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There is a possibilty that individual DLP micromirrors can get stuck due to a memory effect in the hinges. This happens if the mirror is used at high duty cycles away from 50% in either direction. Therefore, if black is displayed continuously for long periods of time the mirror may stick to black. The same applies for white.
However, the chances of this happening over the lifetime of the set are slight.
For detailed information, check out the whitepapers from the bottom pulldown at this site:
http://www.dlp.com/dlp_technology/default.asp
However, the chances of this happening over the lifetime of the set are slight.
For detailed information, check out the whitepapers from the bottom pulldown at this site:
http://www.dlp.com/dlp_technology/default.asp
Current Opinions on Plasma Burn - Any Newer Data?
I read the FAQ thread on burn-in and I also did a search with "plasma" and "burn". I know a little bit more than I did before, but not enough to satisfy me. One thread was over a year old. What I want to know is what kind of experiences members have had with their plasmas and if it is even less of an issue in hind sight.
I may be choosing a plasma. It will be used primarily for gaming and the occasional movie, though I don't expect to be be playing something like Call of Duty 3 for weeks on end. I could imagine binging on the same game for a few days in a row, but when I pause any game for more than a minute, I shut off the TV. Have any of you done binge gaming on plasmas without any problems?
I read the FAQ thread on burn-in and I also did a search with "plasma" and "burn". I know a little bit more than I did before, but not enough to satisfy me. One thread was over a year old. What I want to know is what kind of experiences members have had with their plasmas and if it is even less of an issue in hind sight.
I may be choosing a plasma. It will be used primarily for gaming and the occasional movie, though I don't expect to be be playing something like Call of Duty 3 for weeks on end. I could imagine binging on the same game for a few days in a row, but when I pause any game for more than a minute, I shut off the TV. Have any of you done binge gaming on plasmas without any problems?
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I've had my Plasma for just about 2 years now and I have no sign of any burn in. That said, I only use it as a television. To be honest, if gaming was my primary use, I'd go with LCD.
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The actual plasma technology has not changed much over the years. What has changed?
1 Some have pixel shift, which lessens the likelihood of burn lines, or burn in from logos, however a black bar will still burn in, if the other guidelines are not followed.
2. Some have lowered the "maximum contrast" ie a "+25" user setting on a newer TV may not have as much contrast as it was on an older TV.
3. Many have auto controls on contrast/brightness, which lessens the likelihood of burn in.
However, the best prevention is knowledge - and that is to properly set up your TV and not to have any static images on screen for more than about 20% of the time (averaged over a long period of time - months) just as mentioned in the FAQ (see below)
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=21270
What I can tell you for sure is that if you leave the TV on the settings that came out of the box (usually "vivid" or similar), and you watch a lot of programming with black bars, you WILL get burn in, in a few months or less than a year. I've seen this for myself on plasmas and CRTs in homes of people who didn't know about burn in, or setting up a TV.
1 Some have pixel shift, which lessens the likelihood of burn lines, or burn in from logos, however a black bar will still burn in, if the other guidelines are not followed.
2. Some have lowered the "maximum contrast" ie a "+25" user setting on a newer TV may not have as much contrast as it was on an older TV.
3. Many have auto controls on contrast/brightness, which lessens the likelihood of burn in.
However, the best prevention is knowledge - and that is to properly set up your TV and not to have any static images on screen for more than about 20% of the time (averaged over a long period of time - months) just as mentioned in the FAQ (see below)
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=21270
What I can tell you for sure is that if you leave the TV on the settings that came out of the box (usually "vivid" or similar), and you watch a lot of programming with black bars, you WILL get burn in, in a few months or less than a year. I've seen this for myself on plasmas and CRTs in homes of people who didn't know about burn in, or setting up a TV.
I've had my plasma for 2 years, as well. No burn in. I don't do anything in particular, other than throw a good mix of 4:3, full screen, 2.35:1 and video games to it.
I've heard that this was especially important during the first 300 hours or so.
I always did it, and will continue to do so.
I've heard that this was especially important during the first 300 hours or so.
I always did it, and will continue to do so.
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