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I have LCD's 120hz and even a panasonic G25 plasma with 600hz refresh rates and when I still watch the HD channels on rogers or SD on the 4500 Atlanta box using HDMI, I get lot's of blurring, especially on NFL football games it looks disgusting. I mean the HD and colors look great but Why is everything so blurry? Is this the TV's fault or Rogers most likely? and any tips on how to reduce this?
 

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Are you referring to when the NFL football action becomes fast ie the QB throws the ball down field and the camera pans quickly to catch up? or do you mean all of the time even when the screen is stationary for example when the players are lined up at the line of scrimmage etc.
If it's only for fast action.. a little blurring is normal on all sets.
If it happens all the time, then something is definitely wrong.

I have 2 SA8300's, 1 Panasonic Plasma and 1 60hz Samsung LCD. The Plasma definitely suffers less from fast action blur than the LCD.
 

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if the op is talking about the macroblocking? thats fast motion like sports and racing car shows, then its the compression at the source, the best and most expensive tvs will still show this on rogers cus its not your tv its the signal.
 

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One thing to try -- most 120 Hz sets have some form of 'smoothing' that the sets perform on the signal.

First thing - turn off all your TV's processing. If your TV has a "GAMING" or "GAME" mode.. that will basically minimize the signal processing and that will tell you if it's the TV or the cable service.

You may find it's some combination. My LCD has frame interpolation 'smoothing' which can create blurring artifacts ... I turn it off most times while watching football.
 

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Yes during fast action it's the worst but someone also mentioned the 120hz feature on LCD's and believe me I tried it and to say movies look like watching in fast forward and the 120hz motion still doesn't fix anything. The plasma also should have it much better due to 600hz but both HDTV's have this issue. Also flashing cameras and moving scenes ( like a club with lots of lights are the worst) it's horrible, but when I watch a Blu ray on the plasma the picture is rock solid, no matter how fast everything is. I am thinking it's not my HDTV's fault because ( I did shell out money for a 600hz plasma and a 120hz LCD) and the problem is still there, adding some features in the plasma to reduce compression helps a bit, but still the compression is so bad that the HD on most Rogers channel is a joke and I heard of a HD satellite service coming soon to canada that will have only 1080p channels and far less compression with cheaper packages anyways. So if this company can give almost Blu ray quality picture ( like they claim) on their satellite, then Rogers is screwed and I will pay for a service that gives near Blu ray HD and can enjoy my sports without blurring, like most people do in the US, since they got better HD competition.
 

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We've talked about proper setup of the TV in a previous closed thread. You don't want to listen to us on that topic.

We also discussed the fact that BDs are not encoded live and that's why they don't have the same artifacts as live programming, no matter which provider, including OTA since all the signals are compressed. Macroblocking is a fact of life and we've discussed it in previous threads of yours and I'm closing this thread too since you don't seem to read the information that we DO provide.
 
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