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#1 ·
This afternoon, I received an email from Rogers advising they'd upgraded my area. I ran speedtest and didn't see any difference so I called tech support. I wound up with a new package that took my connection from 1.5 Gb down & 50 Mb up to 2 Gb down & 200 Mb up. I also picked up 20 more TV channels and after all that, cut my bill by $22/month.

Here are my new speedtest results:

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My download is limited to 1 Gb by my hardware.
 
#2 ·
You seem to get better deals than most people. Maybe Rogers knows it will be posted online. Everyone else usually gets price increases and reductions in channels on a regular basis. There are better deals than Rogers out there. I see Rogers is offering 2Gb internet for $120 but that's dependent on a 2 year contract and setting up auto-pay. The regular price is $155. TPIAs have 1Gb/50Mb plans for a no-contract price of $80/mo (vs $135 from Rogers) and TV packages with 20-25 pick and pay TV channels for about $50 (vs $110 or more to get the same channels in a big bloated package from Rogers.) Again, no contract. For most people, Rogers does not even come close to most TPIAs on price and terms.
 
#3 ·
I just pay attention to offers and call in occasionally to see what I can get. Since I was getting a price cut on the wired side, I decided to up my cell plan a bit. For an extra $6, I went from a 130 GB & 250 Mb to 200 GB & 1 Gb. I also get local calling to U.S. & Mexico and 1000 minutes to UK, India, China & Hong Kong and Bangledesh. I have no idea why that combo and the only one I'd be likely to use is UK. But my account shows I get 230 GB, because I still have the 30 GB extra I picked up a few year ago. Of course, I've never come close to using my full download data. ;)
 
#4 · (Edited)
I got deals from Rogers at one time but that stopped when they decided to stop offering them for legacy TV. Around here, Rogers cellular network and sometimes the internet are not as reliable as they should be so I'm on the other big wireless network.

Most of those countries I understand for business or family calls. Bangladesh seems to be an outlier. It's odd that the EU isn't included. I rarely use more that 1GB per month so paying for 200GB would be absurd, at least until the home internet goes out for an extended time again. I use wifi whenever possible, which is available in most places I go these days.
 
#5 ·
I have some relatives in England, but know absolutely no one in those Asian countries. I occasionally call the U.S., but have never called Mexico. About 20 years ago, the 2nd time I was at IBM, I was making a lot of calls to Europe & Asia. I have often tethered my ThinkPad & tablet to my phone. I never connect my phone to public WiFi. I also have both my home computer and firewall/router configured to tether to my phone if needed.
 
#6 · (Edited)
There are lots of immigrants and travellers from or to the U.S., Mexico, the UK, India, China & Hong Kong who could use a similar plan. Mexico would be useful for Winter vacationers.The only things preventing cheap worldwide long distance are phone companies and governments.

It would be nice if mobile data could be purchased separately for a reasonable price but that doesn't seem to be the case. I could get a plan with 80GB/mo for under $50/mo but a one time add-on is typically about $5/GB which works out to $400 for 80GB. That price has been reduced from up to $30/GB since the switch from 3G to 4G from the same companies. Postpaid plans that charge for overage typically charge about $10/GB so the unlimited plans are a lot better, even if slow. Don't get me started on mobile long distance and roaming charges which, thankfully, seem to be going away or becoming more reasonable.

I connect to public WiFi in trusted places and always use an encrypted VPN. I played with tethering once to see if it worked but never had enough data to actually use it.
 
#7 ·
Some people buy a data SIM when traveling. There are various deals for those but I have never used them.

My data is available when traveling in U.S. or Mexico and also the 1000 minutes to UK & Asia as well. I also get 50% off Roam Like Home when traveling elsewhere.

"I could get a plan with 80GB/mo for under $50/mo"

My new plan is $65/month.

I also have a VPN configured, but I usually tether to my phone instead. As I have far more data than I need, that's not an issue. My phone often has better performance than the WiFi too.

Here's the details of my new plan:

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#8 ·
You may have gotten a better deal but the thing with these 2Gb/s or over 1Gb/s plans is that most people cant utiliize the Full Download speed because their home networks aren't upgraded for it. I had the same issue but not with Rogers. My Fibre provider gave me a 1.5Gb/s download and Upload but I couldn't go above 1Gb/s. I eventually upgraded my home network and its not cheap. New Router, new switch, new NIC cards, etc all with 2.5GBs ports.
 
#9 ·
I'm struggling to understand how moving to 2 Gb down is of any value if your hardware can't use it? You are getting no benefit.

On the Cellular side my Mom's contract with Telus gives her 150GB of Data per month when she uses almost 1. It's all smoke and mirrors. There's no benefit there either.

Paying for something you cannot use is just a waste of $$
 
#10 ·
...I'm struggling to understand how moving to 2 Gb down is of any value if your hardware can't use it? ...Paying for something you cannot use is just a waste of $$
Rogers often give better prices if you "upgrade" your plan. You cannot get that pricing if you stay on your current plan, or even downgrade. Re-read post 1.
 
#11 ·
Yes, I do understand the package is what you get, even if you only want a small part of it. Which of course may just be a lower overall cost. But the current marketing push for higher speeds and Data is convincing folks to buy into something of little or no benefit. The value for money is diminishing with the larger Telcos, probably due to lack of competition in most marketplaces.
 
#13 ·
You may have gotten a better deal but the thing with these 2Gb/s or over 1Gb/s plans is that most people cant utiliize the Full Download speed because their home networks aren't upgraded for it.
I'm struggling to understand how moving to 2 Gb down is of any value if your hardware can't use it? You are getting no benefit.
Some of the routers on 1.5gB or 2gb plans are only capable of 1Gbps on a single ethernet port, others up to 10Gb. They may be capable of more delivering more by using two 1Gbps ports simultaneously, either by bonding or by delivering 1Gbps on different ethernet segments. They are also capable of using the excess speed when ethernet and wifi devices are used simultaneously. Even if wifi devices cannot use all of the excess speed individually, modern routers are capable of delivering higher speeds to multiple wifi devices simultaneously. Also, Wi-Fi 7 is capable of greater than 1Gbps speeds to individual Wi-Fi 7 devices and Wi-Fi 6 can get close to 1Gbps to per device. Unlike a single ethernet cable, wifi speeds are cumulative and newer routers with technologies such as MU-MIMO can deliver greater than 1Gbps in total.

They offered to send me a new modem that could provide 2 Gb, but I declined because I knew it would provide no benefit, unless I replaced all my hardware.
The new modem may provide other benefits, such as better reliability using newer protocols or faster wifi. With Rogers, I've learned to take the upgraded hardware when offered as its policies seem to prevent user requested hardware upgrades when plans are not upgraded at the same time. That can sometimes mean upgrading to a more expensive plan or losing promotions.