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Just recently bought a 2006 Honda that does not have any satellite radio built in.

-I don't want to use a FM transmitter
-I don't want the antenna on my dashboard

Is it possible?

How much will this cost to get installed?

Where can I get it installed?
 

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Big box retailers can do it. Does your existing radio have an AUX in? This would avoid the need for a transmitter.

An antenna will need to be installed on the car regardless
 

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No AUX in on my exisiting radio.

So can I get a hard wired FM transmitter?

Do you have any idea what the big box retailers would charge? $100?
 

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In my car, I still have a tape deck, but no AUX, so I bought the tape adapter. Much better quality than FM.

As for not having the antenna on the dash, I have mine installed in the back window. You just have to get the antenna there, concealing the wire wherever you can.
 

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your only option is replaceing the deck with an aftermarket one. The nice thing here is alot of newer ones have ipod hook ups and bluetooth built in as well as some have sat radio built in as well. the typical cost can vary from 100-300 for the deck plus installation(50-100)

the antenna can be run to the outside of the vehicle easily. ( I had mine above the passenger door in my cavy)
 

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I can't seem to find any after market decks that have sat radio built in.. Found some that are sat ready which means I need to buy the hardware like a sportster for example. But if I have any deck with aux then I could just use that..

Anyone know a deck that has sat built in? That seems like it would be ideal for me..
 

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A lot of the sat-ready aftermarket decks use an outboard adapter for receiving satellite signals (Terk/Audiovox makes a number of them). These are not the same as satellite radios (like the Sportster, etc.) and are hard-wired to the aftermarket deck.
 

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How are they not the same?

Can I activate them and listen to satellite radio?

I'm confused, can you clarify?
 

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they are perminant units for the car. the issue is if you want to use your sat radio anywhere other then the car youd have to pay for an extra subscription.

if you dont plan to use it outside the car the stand alone units are nice as they are completly hidden.

if you do your best bet is a mounting kit and an aux in on a deck.
 

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It means the interface for controlling the sat radio is built into the aftermarket deck but the hardware to receive the signal isn't.

You basically buy an antenna and a box that decodes the satellite signal and it feeds into your aftermarket deck. There is no other player required.
 

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My Pioneer has XM built in.

What mr weahter is talking about is some kind of a box that connects inline with your existing radio.

I know you don't want an antenna on your dashboard however, there is a gizmo that connect directly on your car antenna. It converts your Left and Right audio into an FM signal so you can use any music playing device in your existing system. You just tune to the frequency of your choice and you instantly have music trhough the FM. I know it's not hardwired like you wish but it is better than FM tranmsitter. That's what I used to have before buying my Pioneer radio.
 

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What mr weahter is talking about is some kind of a box that connects inline with your existing radio.
Correct. This box does the XM signal reception and decryption. A "sat ready" deck works in conjunction with the adapter box such that the deck controls the station tuning, displays the channel data, plays the audio, etc.

It is different from a Sportster in that it tunes, decrypts and displays the data in one unit. It simply sends the audio to an amplification device (existing car stereo with an AUX for example).

Both require an outboard satellite antenna so the OP is stuck with that either way.
 

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Thanks for all the help guys.. I went to a big box store to ask for a quote and here is what I was given:

Pioneer Deck $199
Pioneer Sirius Modual $79
Sirius Connect $79
Installation $99
Kit $29
Harness $18
Satellite Radio $129

Total: $632 plus tax (13% HST) = $714.16

He couldn't explain to me what the modual done and the sirius connect done, so it didn't make sense to me.

Then when he said I needed to have a satellite radio on top of it all that would be hid inside the vehicle I got even more confused. He insisted that this was true and that he has sold many of these packages and that his father in law has it done.

So I asked to speak with an install guy and he told me that wasn't true, I didn't need the satellite radio hardware.

Can someone tell me if this is legit without the $129 satellite radio? What does the sirius modual and sirius connect (both $79) do?

Thanks again for any help!!!!
 

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yikes . i would suggest checking out smaller shops in your area as well the big box stores can be a rip off and most of there installers are not well trained.

If you are half handy with tools / wiring you can install the whole thing yourself and save the installation(plus you can sorce parts online).

You should not need the second sat reciever as thats what the connect box does.
 

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I was looking into it a while back (settled for another plug and play radio instead). Essentially, you need a deck that is Sirius compatible. That means it will show the song titles, artist, and all that.

Behind that, hidden in the dash, you need 2 things: the Sirius universal tuner (includes the antenna and the "decoder" for the antenna) and an interface that essentially translates between what the antenna receives and your deck. That interface is specific to the deck brand, be it Sony, JVC, etc.

This takes care of the first 3 items on your list. The "satellite radio" has no business there and the installation is self-explanatory. As for the other two (harness & kit), I don't have a clue. Probably something extra they use during their own installation as a mean to make extra money. As far as I know, someone who does this installation themselves don't have anything extra such as these to purchase.
 

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It looks like I was partially wrong above. Some devices sold by Sirius can be connected directly to the car deck while others require an interface between the antenna receiver and the deck. Pretty confusing.
 

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the harness and dash kit are required to install the deck. there standard items that even if he were to purchase teh deck and do it himself would need.
 

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The Harness is all the wiring. It is necessary as you are installing an aftermarket deck. The Harness will allow the deck to receive power and send the audio to the speakers. The Dash kit is to fit the aftermarket deck into the vehicles dash to look like it has always been there. Like Redzone said they are both necessary no matter what deck/vehicle you have and who does the install.
 

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I have a Future Shop purchased/installed Pioneer deck with the pioneer bus attached Sirius radio/tuner/receiver. This has been installed for a few years and works great... I got it because I was sick and tired of trying to use the stand alone radio with its FM transmitter and try and find free radio stations as you move from city to city. It sounds like the person who quoted you all that extra stuff added in a bunch of stuff you don't really need... all you need is the deck, the bus connect sat reciever (its a box that they hide in your car, connects to the back of the deck and to the included antenna) and the wiring harness/panel kit. My radio purchase included free basic installation (which is a $50 value) but I paid a further $50 because my install was not a basic install. In total, I paid $300 for the deck, approx $100 for the bus connected tuner, $40 (if memory serves) for the harness and $50 for the extra install.

The bus connected sirus reciever has a serial number just like any radio... which you need to supply when you activate it. It is basically just a sat radio without any user interface... the user interface is accomplished by the commands sent to it over the bus from the user interface built into the deck.

BTW, the deck can also do XM... with the purchase of a XM bus connected receiver for another $100 or so. In theory I could have both XM and Sirius subscriptions in the same car... which would make switching from one to the other easily possible (in order cancel subs to keep getting a better deal for example...)

They installed my antenna in a bad location for a hatchback (too near where the door meets the rest of the car so the wire got pinched)... and so it got damaged over a year of the door hatch being opened and closed. I took it back, and they made me pay $50 for a replacement antenna, but they re-installed it (in a better location) at no extra charge.
 
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