Bell says it will build fibre out to new condos and apartment buildings

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hugh

Discussion Starter · Aug 22, 2008

In what appears to be a repackaging of what has been going on for sometime, Bell announced today that it will deploy fibre directly to new condominiums and other multi-dwelling units (MDUs) throughout the Quebec-Windsor corridor.

"This initiative to deliver high-speed bandwidth directly to new MDUs supports Bell's strategic imperative to invest in broadband networks and services," said George Cope, President and CEO of BCE and Bell.

Bell's Fibre to the Node (FTTN) program is deploying fibre to within less than a kilometre of homes throughout the Quebec-Windsor corridor - 2.4 million households will be covered by the end of 2008. FTTN is also being deployed in all new suburban housing developments.

This new Fibre to MDU program offers the benefits of high-speed fibre to thousands of residents in hundreds of new high-rise developments as well.

I think the "new" Bell has realized that upgrades to the infrastructure are paramount to stem the losses to cable.

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smootherator

· #2 · Aug 22, 2008

Its about time..i think if it wasnt for the apple Iphone we still would not have a 3g network.

Really behind the times we are compared to Europe and Asia in High Speed infrastructures.

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i hate tv

· #3 · Aug 22, 2008

I_Want_My_HDTV said:
The bad news is that the new Bell appears to be leaving older residences and less urban areas out of the loop.

I think this is a good start, and probably cheaper to install in new areas, then in older mature areas. I wonder if this will speed up the rollout fot IPTV?

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I_Want_My_HDTV

· #4 · Aug 22, 2008

OOps. Deleted a post there.

I have been hearing rumours about this for years now. I suspect it was delayed somewhat due to the recent takeover. I also suspect that Bell will use the extra capacity and bandwidth to sell their own services such as IPTV and VOD over DSL2. Internet users will likely get some extra speed but will be reigned in by caps and traffic shaping that limit their ability to use non-Bell video services.

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Nemnoch

· #5 · Aug 27, 2008

We should see alot of this type of movement in the coming year.
When a company goes private, it no longer has to answer to the whims of stock holders, who, month after month demand a return on their investment.

As a private company, BCE can, when the deal is complete, begin to reinvest it's earnings back into it's infastructure.

Nem, who thinks this is good news indeed and can't wait till he gets fibre (for now, he eats bran)

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Pinza

· #6 · Sep 2, 2008

There are many buildings in and around the GTA that have already got the Fibre installed. It was installed to feed the residents with iPTV, however it is now just sat there, mothballed and the buildings that expected the most modern, advanced system of TV delivery, now get to have a pair of 75cm Dish's put on the Roof.....

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17671

· #7 · Sep 3, 2008

smootherator said:
Its about time..i think if it wasnt for the apple Iphone we still would not have a 3g network.

Really behind the times we are compared to Europe and Asia in High Speed infrastructures.

How So? when the networking engineers @ Rogers were planning the 3g (umts/wcdma/hspa) network almost 4 years ago, there was no such thing as an apple iPhone. even durring the installation of the UMTS towers, cabinets, and the ORT program, there was no such thing as an iPhone yet..

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i hate tv

· #8 · Sep 3, 2008

I've seen a few rolls of fibre at the sides of the road, and had a chuckle when I noticed the bright orange spraypaint "NOT COPPER, FIBRE, DONT STEAL" . I would guess a roll fibre would be more expensive, but I guess its still worth less to copper thieves!

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Walter Dnes

· #9 · Sep 3, 2008

Paolo said:
How So? when the networking engineers @ Rogers were planning the 3g (umts/wcdma/hspa) network almost 4 years ago, there was no such thing as an apple iPhone. even durring the installation of the UMTS towers, cabinets, and the ORT program, there was no such thing as an iPhone yet..

The irony is that North America is behind in cellular tech because our POTS landline service is so good. In the rest of the planet, landlines are expensive, unreliable, and take 6 months to a year to be installed after the initial order.

For all intents and purposes, a lot of the planet doesn't have functional landlines. In these places, the original spotty cellular service was the best thing since sliced bread. Here in North America, people with high-quality landline service giggled at the failings of the original cellular systems. Fast-forward 20 years, and cellular tech has greatly improved around most of the planet. But most of North America is still on landline.

If you really want to increase cellular adoption in North America, you probably need to force a shutdown of landline service, along the lines of the analogue TV shutdown. It would also give a big boost to building construction, because of all the riots in the streets when the shutdown of landlines is announced.

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wysiwyg

· #10 · Sep 4, 2008

Start by giving us ADSL2+ so we can at least be at par with Western Europe. You can get up to 28 Meg with that which is sufficient for voice, internet and TV (including 1 HD feed).

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smootherator

· #11 · Sep 5, 2008

How So? when the networking engineers @ Rogers were planning the 3g (umts/wcdma/hspa) network almost 4 years ago, there was no such thing as an apple iPhone. even durring the installation of the UMTS towers, cabinets, and the ORT program, there was no such thing as an iPhone yet

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well woop teeee dooo. The rest of the advanced world is already on the 4g network.

wires is so last century hehe

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johnny_marin

· #12 · Sep 11, 2008

Start by giving us ADSL2+ so we can at least be at par with Western Europe. You can get up to 28 Meg with that which is sufficient for voice, internet and TV (including 1 HD feed).

ADSL2+ only provides up to 15Mbps, it is VDSL2 that provides up to 25Mbps. Bell is also looking at pair bonding to boost VDSL2 rates for MDUs up to 100Mbps. All DSL throughput is limited by copper length and to get the high bandwidths mentioned the loops have to be less than 300 metres. Hence the fiber to the basement of the MDU.

There are many buildings in and around the GTA that have already got the Fibre installed. It was installed to feed the residents with iPTV, however it is now just sat there, mothballed and the buildings that expected the most modern, advanced system of TV delivery, now get to have a pair of 75cm Dish's put on the Roof.....

Bell has been installing fiber to the MDU since 2000 when they partnered with Motorola and developed VDSL which provided up to 25Mbps with fiber to the MDU. They then abandoned this technology and MDU strategy around 2005-2006 to push IPTV over VDSL2 and the DTH stacked solution (Dish on the roof). Now they announce a "New" strategy to put fiber to the MDU! IMHO Bell has wasted many years and lost many customers because they couldn't figure out which technology solution to use.

John

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PhotoJim

· #13 · Sep 11, 2008

smootherator said:
Its about time..i think if it wasnt for the apple Iphone we still would not have a 3g network.

We had a 3G network on Rogers in Canada before the first-generation iPhone was released, actually. It's grown since, but it was still there.

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