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“Project Latte” will be offered via set-top box to TELUS Optik TV, Bell Fibe TV, and Bell Aliant FibreOP TV subscribers at launch. The service will also be available via mobile apps, the web, game consoles, and smart TVs.
Set-top box refers to the Mediaroom receiver from your TV provider.
 

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ExDilbert when you have the likes of Shomi, Latte, Netflix all bidding to put shows on their platforms not competition? If anything these two new services have now given consumers more options not less. Large studios are not creating these services, BDUs in Canada are innovating as a result of the Netflix competition.
That's not market competition. It's controlled supply which acts in the reverse. Market competition is when two or more producers (who are not in collusion) have the same product and consumers make the choice. The large studios may not deliver the content to consumers but they control the supply in ways that drives up prices. Forcing BDUs to bid for exclusive content is one way to do that. That is good for studios but bad for consumers. I doubt it's much of a coincidence that Bell bought Astral and leveraged HBO Canada's position to obtain an exclusive deal for HBO content. Bell's purchase of Astral must be paid by for someone and that's almost always the consumer. The HBO deal was probably also very expensive for Bell. Canadian consumers will end up picking up the tab. I expect that once Bell's Latte and Rogers/Shaw's Shomi obtain dominant market share, prices will rise dramatically.
 

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This forum began to degrade with the culmination of biased posters who obviously have ties with various providers. We need more bipartisan policies.

Dedicated content is not viewed as more competition....no mater how loud Bell and Rogers shout it out.
 

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That's not market competition. It's controlled supply which acts in the reverse.
One of the key factors required for competition is property rights. What bothers me about your position is that you seem to want everything to be in favour of the consumer by removing property rights of the producer.

If I produce something, I should be permitted to decide how I want to sell what I have created. If I decide to make an exclusive deal for my product that is my choice. You as a consumer, can choose not to buy through the supplier I have made my deal with and in the end, you won't have my product and I won't have your money.

Further, as distributor, I can choose to enter into a deal with a supplier that is an exclusive. Once again, you as a consumer have a choice to purchase or not to purchase.

Let's be clear, this happens in the market place regularly. And as I mentioned earlier, SVOD is not a life sustaining product that requires special rules.

Do you believe that NetFlix should be required to licence Orange is the New Black to all other SVOD services to be released at the same time it is released on NetFlix? If not, what makes that situation different? Would this not ruin what you refer to a "market competition"?

The government, through the CRTC, has managed to destroy any kind of real competition of any business that it can fit into its regulatory regime. Let's not have that happen to the OTT services.

@ecarlino016: For the record, I have no affection or affiliation with Bell, Telus, Rogers, or Shaw. I don't even have a mutual fund that owns their shares. (BTW, did you mean nonpartisan rather than bipartisan?)
 

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I don't have a huge problem with exclusive deals with streaming services. It will be annoying when there are too many of them, but whatever will be will be (queue Doris Day..)

What I have a problem with is using these exclusive deals to force people in to also paying for an expensive cable or satellite subscription to reduce cord cutting. I also have a problem with making these services technically difficult to watch on the big screen without a cable/sat STB. I have a problem with the big guys using these services to artificially prop up their other offerings. I have a problem with them using the massive profits to shut out innovative players by buying up the content rights. I have a problem with them using internet bandwidth caps that don't apply to their own services to make other offerings less appealing.

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@Jaxon, you are completely correct.....that should be nonpartisan.

I find this dedicated content issue similar to my recent experience of buying a car.
I could choose a Manufacturer A or Manufacturer B but if I was interested in apple's iconnect bluetooth link and that was a dedicated offering to Manufacturer A then that eliminates Manufacturer B from my choice.

A more competetive landscape would be to offer iconnect with both manufacturers. And the issue is not with the producer. In this case its apple.....its advantageous to deal with all the manufacturers. The problem is the distributors wont play fair.

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Part of the competitive process is to differentiate your product from your competition's product. Offering iConnect or OnStar or Microsoft's product (Lync?) is one way to do that. Having exclusive rights to a program is how the SVOD providers can differentiate their products.
 

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SVOD products could also be differentiated by the nature of the user interface, integration with HTPC software and third party TV boxes, picture and audio quality relative to bitrate, and of course price and pricing model.
I find it unfortunate that they have chosen to compete on content instead, although I agree with Jaxon9032 that regulation is not the answer. If Bell follows Netflix and shomi's lead on pricing and standalone availability the three together would provide a good variety of content at a reasonable total cost. If Bell's service is overpriced or requires bundling with other services I guess I'll just have to live without that content ;)
 

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jaxon9032, you are correct about the definition of competition. However, major studios, Canadian broadcasters and Canadian BDUs act as an oligopoly that approaches a cartel in several respects. As such, Latte's agreement with HBO is highly suspect. On the one hand I am happy to see the launch of Latte and and the availability of HBO content. On the other, I am extremely unhappy that Bell acquired Astral and all HBO content. As such, HBO content becomes part of the broadcasting oligopoly that exists in Canada. If Astral had remained independent and launched its own streaming service, separate from Latte, I would be much happier. If HBO had made its US streaming service available to Canadians, I would have been even happier still.
 

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I don't even really see these to 2 services as competing. People will choose which content suits their needs, or not at all, or go with Netflix.
 

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Latte, Shomi and Netflix compete in the sense that they all provide streaming video services. However, major studios act as a cartel for the supply of video content and Bell, Rogers and Shaw (and their respective regional counterparts) act as an oligopoly. Since it is offered by Bell, Latte is part of that oligopoly. This affects independent companies like Netflix since they have difficulty competing due to the difficulty of obtaining content rights in Canada.

The main advantage to streaming services is that they have a lower entry cost. However, the content they offer reflects the lower price. Premium, first run content is still tied to a high priced BDU subscription. At first glance, Latte may appear to be a good deal. For 90% of Canadians with BDU subscriptions, the reality is that it will become an extra cost add-on package.
 

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Bell Media Strikes Lightning in "Project Latte" Deal For ARROW and THE FLASH

Bell Media announced an exclusive streaming agreement with Warner Bros. International Television that will bring Top 20 superhero TV series ARROW and THE FLASH to its subscription on-demand video streaming service, code-named "Project Latte."

All 46, one-hour episodes from ARROW's first and second seasons will immediately be available when "Project Latte" launches in December.

THE FLASH will become available on "Project Latte" when its debut season concludes in 2015.

Full Press Release.
 

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ORPHAN BLACK and BBC’s DOCTOR WHO to Headline Bell Media’s “Project Latte” Sci-Fi & Fantasy Collection

Bell Media revealed today that its upcoming subscription on-demand video streaming service, code-named “Project Latte,” will deliver to its subscribers the most-sought after sci-fi and fantasy-themed premium TV content in the country when it launches next month, anchored by genre hits ORPHAN BLACK and BBC’s DOCTOR WHO. Today’s announcements are the latest in a series of programming confirmations for Canada’s premium TV streaming service, set to launch in December.

At launch, the Sci-Fi & Fantasy, STAR TREK, and Superheroes collections will represent more than 1,500 hours of programming for “Project Latte” subscribers.

ORPHAN BLACK and DOCTOR WHO

• At launch, “Project Latte” will feature past seasons of two of the hottest shows on TV – conspiracy clone drama ORPHAN BLACK (20 episodes), exclusively available on “Project Latte,” and BBC’s cult-hit DOCTOR WHO (108 episodes). Last season, ORPHAN BLACK reached a total of 3.7 million viewers and more than 832,000 unique viewers each week on Space. DOCTOR WHO, the #1 series of all time on Space, reached epic proportions in its recently wrapped eighth season, averaging 756,000 viewers weekly, making it the most-watched TV series on Canadian specialty television during its run.

STAR TREK
• Bell Media has secured the subscription on-demand video streaming service rights for the entire TV catalogue of one of the most popular series of all time, STAR TREK. Every single episode of STAR TREK’s six series, 30 seasons, 715 hours, and 726 episodes can only be found together on “Project Latte” at launch, allowing subscribers to re-live the intergalactic magic from Captains Kirk to Picard to Janeway.
• While the catalogue has been available to fans in various forms throughout the years, “Project Latte” will be the only service to deliver all six series in their entirety: STAR TREK: THE ORIGINAL SERIES; STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION; STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE; STAR TREK: VOYAGER; and STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE.
• Plus, fans get access to the little-known STAR TREK: THE ANIMATED SERIES, voiced by the original cast.

UTOPIA
• “Project Latte” will also feature the British conspiracy thriller UTOPIA, which earlier this week was awarded “Best Drama” at the International Emmy Awards.
• From Kudos, one of the world’s leading television production companies, UTOPIA follows five online strangers who are drawn together by the legendary manuscript of a cult graphic novel, and then find themselves pursued by a secret and deadly organization known only as The Network.

SCI-FI & FANTASY
• Also joining the lineup of ever-growing premium content on “Project Latte” is cop fantasy GRIMM, smoking-hot werewolf drama BITTEN, fan-favourite TEEN WOLF, Season 1 of BBC’s epic adventure drama ATLANTIS, medieval fantasy MERLIN, BBC’s action-packed series SINBAD, comedy horror TODD & THE BOOK OF PURE EVIL, cult favourite military sci-fi series BATTLESTAR GALLACTICA (2004-09), and its spin-off CAPRICA. The iconic and influential THE TWILIGHT ZONE will also be available to “Project Latte” subscribers, in fully re-mastered glory.
• Coming up later in 2015 is the greatly anticipated new Space Original production KILLJOYS, an interplanetary space drama from ORPHAN BLACK producers Temple Street Productions.

SUPERHEROES
Bell Media announced today the first titles for its “Superheroes” collection, ARROW and THE FLASH, two of the most-watched television programs in Canada, Based on the DC comic characters, ARROW is billionaire playboy and secret vigilante Oliver Queen, while THE FLASH is Barry Allen, the Fastest Man Alive.

Programming announced today represent content from BBC Worldwide, CBS Studios International, Entertainment One Television, Frantic Films, FremantleMedia International, MGM, NBC Universal, Shine Group, Temple Street Productions, and Warner Bros. International Television Distribution.

Full Press Release.
 

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Some of that content is obviously not exclusive since SHOMI has Star Trek the original series, and The Next Generation, but not the others
 

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I do not have netflix anymore so I can not check but netflix Canada also had lots of those star trek series when I was subscribed during the summer
 

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I hope that this doesn't mean that I will lose access to shows like Doctor Who on Netflix. My provider is Eastlink, so Project Latte will not be available to me even if I wanted to subscribe to this service.
 

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According to today's press releases, ORPHAN BLACK, ARROW and THE FLASH streaming rights are exclusive to “Project Latte.” The press releases don't say the others like DOCTOR WHO and STAR TREK are exclusive.
 
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