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Sometime between Boxing Day and Jan 5 I’m going to purchase an Apple TV as I started to buy shows that I can’t get on Blu-Ray from iTunes on my iPhone. What would I need the larger unit for? Once purchased and I own the shows don’t I just stream them off iTunes or do I have to download all purchases? If so even 64gb won’t get me very far.


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The movies you purchase are stored in iCloud. You can watch them on any of your devices (where you are signed in with your Apple ID) and they do not take up space on the AppleTV. You can download the movies to your iTunes library on your computer. If you don't have enough space there, you can maintain your iTunes library on an external drive. This is the way I understand it. I have 3 AppleTVs with lots of Apps on them, including a few games. All are 32GB and I've never run into any warning about lack of space to add another App.

I hope that helps with your decision.
 

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That’s good to know. I won’t be playing games on it just watching shows I purchase so unless the 64gb is as cheap I’ll stick with the 32gb.


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I’m assuming I can use Netflix & Amazon Prime through The Apple 4KTV but does anyone know if you can also use the new Crave TV through it?


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Yes, I have all three and prefer them that way. Netflix, Prime and Crave. The new CBC Gems App is nice, too.
 

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That’s good to know. I’m currently watching Netflix & Prime on my Panasonic UB900 but would like all through the Apple.


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I could watch through TELUS for Netflix and Crave or my LG TV for Netflix and Prime (no Crave on there yet), but I prefer to use Apple TV for all of them. Apple’s TV App can remember what you’ve been watching and displays what episodes you night like to look at, etc, across the top of the screen. It harmonizes also with the CBC, Global and CityTV Apps.
 

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That’s good to know. By the sounds of things the Apple TV will integrate the shows I purchase off iTunes and Netflix, Prime along with Crave quite nicely.


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Well I’m leeringly starting to purchase some shows from iTunes. Hopefully they don’t disappear some day. I can’t quite figure a few things out. My plan is to buy what I can on BD and purchase what I can’t get on BD through iTunes. As an example: I have the first three seasons on Power & Ray Donovan on BD, after that they went DVD only so I’ll buy the remaining seasons on iTunes in HD, now we watch most shows we want to keep on our own time so how is it my wife wanted to buy season 8 of The Walking Dead on BD for $55 or up to $75 depending where you look. That price is crazy and I won’t pay that much, but on iTunes the season is only $32. You can’t tell me that physical discs are that much more to produce. I also found The Americans S2-5 for $9.99/each season which is cheaper than the DVD’s. I can’t get all the logic for the pricing structures but it is what it is I guess.


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Video discs cost under $1 to manufacture. The higher costs for discs is largely due to distribution costs and retail markup. Depending on the product, distribution and retail markups can account for up to 90% of the price. It costs very little to distribute a disc electronically and Apple takes about a 30% commission.
 

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That’s exactly what I’m talking about Dr. Dave. For the exact reasons in the article I won’t ever purchase any actual movies from iTunes as I’ll still buy the 4K BDs. I’ll limit my purchases to shows I can’t get on Blu-Ray only.


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I've got to wonder if it's worth purchasing any videos. Never mind licensing issues, most of the newer videos for sale on iTunes will end up on OTT streaming services or other subscription services within a year. Renting or borrowing discs are almost always significantly cheaper than purchasing for newer material. If the price is good, as in cheaper than renting or a monthly OTT subscription, then purchasing a disc may be a good option. I've seen several physical media options disappear. Tapes are history, including Betamax and VHS video. I've seen 2 types of 12" videodiscs become obsolete. None of those can be played without a vintage player and quality is marginal at best. I couldn't even give away my videodisc player once the video stores stopped renting the discs.

The main thing to remember is that physical media of all types is rapidly becoming obsolete. Apart from a few hard to find titles, CDs are almost worthless and DVDs are following the same trend. 1080p Blu-ray isn't far behind as major streaming services are rolling out on-demand 4K titles and 4K Blu-ray titles appear to be taking over the videophile market. The main thing I don't like about Blu-ray is that licensing for discs can be revoked without warning. (It's not just an issue with online digital only purchases.) I haven't heard of that happening but I have heard of Blu-ray player licenses being revoked. When that happens, a new player must be purchased to play new titles.
 

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I went with 64G as the difference between the two models were about $15, I think. Now the difference is $5 at that famous membership store.
 

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Well I picked up the Apple TV. I’m quite impressed. Set was pretty much automatic with my IPhone. I was happy to see the Bell Fibe app but of coarse it doesn’t work. I had to sign into apps like TSN,Sportsnet,Global,city TV separately using Bell as my provider, also I can’t seem to find CTV Go & Discovery Go at all yet my Samsung UBD-M9500 has both. Not a big deal though. So far so good.


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The CTV App should be easy to find using Search in the Apple TV Store. I have it, but ran into difficulty with the sign in. I complained and suggested I would just delete it, as it was too frustrating to work with. They wrote back with instructions on how to delete it :)))
 

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Just gave it another try and got it to work. There are about 4 other sub channels in the App, but nothing on them. It’s a lot easier to just tune into the channel in the regular way, since you have to subscribe through your TV provider to be able to use the App. It took me only 2 tries to activate it!
 

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Thanks I’ll definitely check again. When I did the initial search all I saw was CTV News Net.


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