Thanks Technut. Regardless of legitimacy,...who has had issues getting these boxes to work on Cogeco after a full reset? I saw some folks were successful, and I have heard of other's that weren't (although not on this board).technut said:It has been mentioned on these forums before, but it looks like a reminder is needed. Very few cable companies actually sell cable decoder boxes, most just rent them out... Shaw is one of the few exceptions.
Comcast only rents their 6412's to their customers. If you see someone selling a Comcast 6412 you can be pretty sure it is a stolen unit.
In many cases it's simply "legacy" equipment that one service provider "inherited" from another service provider during a takeover, or merger. I don't think the business is as fiendish as you make out.Mika said:Have you ever wondered why Rogers uses Scientific America in one part of its network and Motorola in another.
You have to admit that life would be very different for the Cable Companies in the GTA and surrounding areas if they all used the same equipment! If that were the case the thousands of people that move every month in GTA would want to take their purchased equipment with them. By having different equipment eliminates that problem rather nicely don't you think. I may be paranoid, but not naive and I understand that Rogers is run as if every misspent nickel is coming right out of the boss' pocket.57 said:In many cases it's simply "legacy" equipment that one service provider "inherited" from another service provider during a takeover, or merger. I don't think the business is as fiendish as you make out.
For example, if there were not a huge cost to change all the Motorola-compatible equipment (head end, STBs, etc) in the Atlantic provinces to SA, I'm sure Rogers would do it in a heartbeat.
Drop in the bucket for Rogers. They used to even have a "trade" programme where Rogers would accept Cogeco and visa versa, much like car dealerships do. I think you're paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get every nickel.Mika said:By having different equipment eliminates that problem rather nicely don't you think. .
Mika, I think there's something to what you're saying. I'm on my 4th factory reset of a comcast 6208 to try to get it to work with Cogeco. No luck so far. After the first reset, cogeco was able to "hit" the box to shut it off so they could upload the authorization data. When I came back after waiting a half hour as instructed, the box showed 0 on the display and wouldn't respond. I called Cogeco back and they were unable to "hit" the box. I've done 2 more resets with the same results. I'm on the fourth one, this time I was instructed to hold down POWER & SELECT when I unplug the receiver to prompt the download. We'll see what happens, but I think it's hosed. The tech folks used the term "pooched", so that can't be good!Mika said:That factory reset will only get you into an attempt to download from your cable provider, this will work as long as your unit is looking for the same OOB Frequency that your Cable Company is providing. Some of the newer boxes (DCT6412) are being modified to look for non-standard frequencies. It seems that each of the cable companies are doing what would have been illegal for any of the phone companies, they are controlling the hardware on their network not for techinical reasons but for pure profit. If each cable company changes the equipment so that it only works on their own network, you can only get the equipment from them. If you can only get the equipment from them, they control not just the price to the consumer but also the terms and conditions under which you own the can have the equipment. It is pure monopolistic greed. I think Cogeco one of the more "consumer oriented" providers in what looks like a very shappy industry. Have you ever wondered why Rogers uses Scientific America in one part of its network and Motorola in another. I believe it is so that no adjacent provider has the same equipment so that nobody can buy a machine from a Burlington subscriber using Cogeco can sell their machine to a Rogers customer. Think about it...!!!!!!