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It appears the 9242 will FORCE itself to update everyday (stupid) and after it's done, it will go into standby mode (also stupid). Does the non PVR HD BEV unit also have this exact same behaviour? My 3100 did not ever do this in 3 yrs, so this came as a surprise.

Is there anyway to prevent the upgrade, or in the least, make it so that after it reboots, it goes straight back to normal TV AND NOT STANDBY?

(the reason this is such a problem is that I am feeding the outputs of the 9242 into a recorder on my PC, and it controls the 9242 with an IR blaster: just sends channel numbers which does not get it out of standby)

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I think I've already come up with a solution: Tested it once and seems to have worked.

Set an autotune daily timer for EXACTLY the same time as the update is scheduled. The update/update notice/standby did not come up and hopefully will be gone forever now. Will report back if unfixed.
 

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you may want to watch for random freezing then. I've noticed that if I have a recording set for around the 3am update time that the next day my PVR will become completely unresponsive. The only solution is to unplug for a a bit (5 or 10 minutes) then go through a checkswitch, etc.

The end result is that I usually see a recording that last a few hours long that doesn't actually play at all and has to be deleted.
 

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Very STUPID.

I turn updates off and then do a reset by holding the on/off button for longer than 5 seconds once a month.
 

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Personally, I don't see what the problem is. Updates are available for a reason. I'd prefer the unit download the EPG at 3:00am rather than when I go to use it.

If you are using the unit for a purpose not intended by the manufacturer (output to your tv) then you shouldn't really be upset that this doesn't work 100% as you expect it to. The proper solution is of course to get your IR blaster to simply turn the unit on/off as required.
 

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I agree updates are useful, but they should give you the option to disable. People with Slingboxes would run into the same issue as I am having.

If it can't handle recording 24 hrs of the day, or setting an autotune to the same time as update I will find that very amusing.

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Hi Robert these codes are in the Universal Remote Control (MX-980,MX-900,Mx-850,etc) IR database. I used the Dish 942 codes and the discrete on and off worked for the 9242

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Personally, I don't see what the problem is. Updates are available for a reason. I'd prefer the unit download the EPG at 3:00am rather than when I go to use it.

If you are using the unit for a purpose not intended by the manufacturer (output to your tv) then you shouldn't really be upset that this doesn't work 100% as you expect it to. The proper solution is of course to get your IR blaster to simply turn the unit on/off as required.
If the purpose isn't to output to your tv what you tell it to output, what do you imagine the purpose is?

Why is it necessary to go into standby mode after an update? Why do you see that as a superior result to just returning the system to its previous state. I have specifically turned off the standby mode, so why doesn't the silly machine read that information and obey!
 

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Well, the autotune at the same time seems to not actually work....the update time seems to vary more than i expected, i think it took like 30min for it to reboot...so I set the update time to 6am, and the autotune to 6:59am, as there is usually nothing ever recorded in that period. Has worked for a few days now.
 

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My 9242 does the same thing, and I came up with the same solution as you.

However recently I would come home after work and find it had also gone into standby mode.

Now, just to verify that you and I are having the same problem, you did go into the menu <menu-8-9> and disable it, right?
 

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Discrete on/off Codes

Here is the scoop on discrete codes...

tech.dishnetwork.com said:
Discrete Power On/Off
Some after-market, universal remote controls need two discrete buttons for Power On and Power Off. Because the remote does not have two free buttons, this feature had to be implemented using a sequence of buttons.

1. Press and hold the SAT button at the top of the remote until all mode button backlights illuminate (about 3 seconds), then release.
2. While the SAT mode light blinks, press and release the large satellite Power button.
3. Press Volume Up for discrete power on. Press Volume Down for discrete power off.
4. Press the Select button to exit.
The solution is to program the discrete on/off codes into the IR blaster and tell the software to send a power on command to the EV receiver before recording.
 

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My 9242 does the same thing, and I came up with the same solution as you.

However recently I would come home after work and find it had also gone into standby mode.

Now, just to verify that you and I are having the same problem, you did go into the menu <menu-8-9> and disable it, right?
I definitely disabled standby, is that the question? I've discovered that my pvr also randomly reboots for no apparent reason, but atleast when it comes back online it returns to normal TV watching instead of standby. I guess I'll have to get it replaced. Hooray for technology.
 

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Nightly reboots are E*'s solution to poor quality software. Disabling them will make the receiver unstable over time. The 9200 was the same way after it's introduction. If you disable the nightly restart, do it manually every few days (by holding down the power button.) Standby can also cause issues. Some PVRs are unstable if standby is enabled. It's not a stretch to imagine that some may become unstable if it is disabled (maybe due to lack of nightly reboots.) :confused:
 

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E661 Watching Program While EPG Downloading

Given the odd things that happen with E661, I want to ask if any of you have had any odd things happen if you are actually watching a program at the time the EPG is downloading.

After reading the prior posts and searching for an answer, I have verified that my PVR is set to disable the standby mode.

I often want to watch recorded programs at the time the EPG downloads (yes I am a night
guy) but have been afraid to do so since E661 arrived.

I'd appreciate any insights and/or suggestions you all may have.

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Previous Post Idiot Mistake Sorry

Apologies for posting the previous item marked E661. I obviously am in the wrong forum. I think what happened is that I did a search about my issue for my PVR 5900 and E661 software and found this thread and just clicked to post without realizing I was in the 9242 forum and not the 5900 forum.

Again, I apologize. I certainly never intended to double post or to bore you guys with my problem on my digital PVR.

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Wow... digging up bones here with this "old" thread.

Has anyone seen this problem get resolved yet? I tried this past weekend to use my HTPC to start recording shows again, simply because I want to be able to watch my recorded shows upstairs in the master bedroom on our laptop.

I read the posts above, and "I Want My HDTV" says to disable the nightly updates and do it manually every couple of days. I looked for this, and there's no option.

Here's what I tried this past weekend:
1) disabled STANDBY timeout... no luck
2) changed the update time to something during the day (10am) to see if it would recognize that live TV was being watched and that the system was NOT idle for more than a few minutes. I changed the channel, BTW, just before the update time, and guess what? Receiver powered itself off.

SO - no luck here with getting any of this shut off... has anyone developed or gotten a solution to this? I have moved this one back to the bedroom (single tuner mode now...) and am using my 6141 instead for the HTPC. It does NOT shut off... two days straight!
 

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The system update should not be disabled. I agree that it should be "beter" than it is, i.e. simply update when the unit is off anyway.

Just create timers for the shows you want to record either auto-tune to use your HTPC or direct to PVR.
 
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