Well It will be 30 days with Shaw D on the 8 and so far so good. I have thoroughly enjoyed being Sim-sub free. Im getting used to the 630 and it is nice and small. Although the unit has rebooted 3 times on its own and 1 forced reboot via front pannel last night when I had no guide or no PVR window only dark screen with vid in corner. I went with the extra value pack & im still thinking on doing the 1tb HDD upgrade as the internal is just too small in todays market. Also I had to phone in to get the phone line hooked up, im not sure why that is as wouldn't the 630 automaticly recognise it? But non the less its all done now. So far so good.