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Please use this thread to discuss new channels on Shaw Cable.
You're welcome to speculate and discuss new channels coming to Shaw Cable in 2011 but PLEASE unless it's been confirmed by an official press release, be clear about what is speculation and what is fact.
A post saying "a CSR said it was coming" is NOT official, however, it does put it in the "highly" likely category.
If its posted on the CRTC site that its been approved by the CRTC but Shaw Cable has not said anything, I would consider that in the "not very likely at this time" category.
This thread replaces a similar thread for 2011.
 
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#348 ·
It's kind of a Catch 22 thing. The 'new channels' in some areas are dependent on DNU so reporting that DNU has been completed and activated also provides the new channels. See what I mean? I get what you are saying though.
 
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#352 ·
National Geographic Wild just became available in Winnipeg on Ch 178 SD and 255 HD.

It aslo seems to be MPEG4 since my DCX 3400 is the only one that is recieving it with both picture and sound. My DCT 6412 only has the sound and no video.
 
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#353 ·
^^^
I just confirmed exactly that with Shaw Chat. I have a 6416 Mk III and a 3416 and both give me audio only, no video on CH255. Seems the requirement is STBs with MPEG4 capability which the 3400 has. SD 178 works but the picture is atrocious - pillarboxed.

I certainly hope that they do not continue to add channels with this requirement
 
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#354 ·
I just checked here in Victoria and 255 is labeled "Channel 255.1 (TBA)" but works just fine.

Go lion go, don't let the crocodile get you while your crossing the riv........too late. :(
 
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#355 ·
Just got NGeo Wild on Shaw Hamilton 187(SD) and 262(HD) and the HD channel is audio only, I guess my Pace box isn't compatible. Shaw offering any sort of trade in program for this?
 
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#356 ·
Hi all, as you may have noticed Nat Geo Wild is out!

The SD channel is available in Satellite Fed and Fibre Fed markets.

The HD channel is available in the systems listed below:
  • Victoria
  • Prince George
  • Red Deer (IBO, Ponoka-Lacombe)
  • Nanaimo (Parksville-Duncan)
  • Quesnel
  • Drumheller
  • Protection Island
  • 100 Mile House
  • Pincher Creek
  • Port Alberni
  • Fort St. John - Dawson Creek
  • Lethbridge
  • Courtenay-Comox
  • Grand Forks
  • Medicine Hat (Brooks)
  • Campbell River
  • Cranbrook (Kimberley)
  • Calgary (Canmore-Banff)
  • Vancouver (Whistler, Squamish) *DNU Pockets Only*
  • Williams Lake
  • Saskatoon (Prince Albert)
  • Bowen Island
  • Fernie
  • Winnipeg
  • Winnipeg Rural
  • Fort McMurray
  • Chilliwack
  • Kamloops
  • Edmonton
  • Kenora
  • Kelowna (Penticton, Vernon)
  • Edson
  • Thunder Bay
  • Salmon Arm (Sorrento)
  • Lloydminster (Vermillion)
  • Hamilton
  • Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario

Considerations:
SD
In Traditional packaging, Nat Geo Wild SD will be part of Digital TV and in SPP, Entertainment 1 and twinned in Best of HD.
Nat Geo Wild SD will launch on channel 175 (except in Winnipeg on Ch. 178, and Hamilton on Ch. 187).
HD
In Traditional packaging, Nat Geo Wild HD will be carried in HD Plus (Entertainment) and in SPP Entertainment 1 and Best of HD.
Nat Geo Wild HD will launch on channel 255 except in Hamilton (channel 262).
Nat Geo Wild HD will be in MPEG4 format only.
Launch preview until June 30, 2012.
 
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#359 ·
I am now receiving Nat Geo Wild in SD on channel 175 here in Edmonton as of yesterday (May 7th). Any word of when it will come to Edmonton in HD? What about Movie Central 2 and 3? Will they require MPEG-4 hardware?

Having said that, I am one of the users who is affected by not having MPEG-4. I bought my Motorola DCT3416I directly from Shaw in the spring of 2008 for $732 including GST. Been a subscriber of Shaw for many, many years and also have phone and Internet through them. Account is always current and never in arrears. I'm even a member of Shaw Friends. Despite this, they flat-out refuse to work with me on upgrading my DCT3416 to something that can handle MPEG-4 unless I just want to trade it for a second Gateway portal if I decide I want that. Well that does me no good because I live on my own in a place that is under 500 square feet. So I'm sure you can appreciate that I am pretty angry about this. I would switch to Telus but they do not offer TV in my building. It would be nice to get other channels too such as radx and the Hollywood Suite.

Guess I should have bought that DCX3400 when Best Buy and London Drugs had it during Boxing Week 2011 for $200 less than the current price!
 
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#360 ·
It doesn't surprise me that shaw won't absorb the cost of upgrading all the non-mpeg4 boxes to mpeg4 boxes. That's probably a big chunk of change. When shaw determines their pricing they don't include the cost of hardware. (IE hardware is mostly paid for directly by the customer, not by shaw.). The advantage is that you don't have to sign long term contracts like you do with Telus.

You would think that Shaw makes enough money to cover it. I imagine though, the cost of replacing all the mpeg2 boxes would be in the 10's of millions of dollars. It might be minute for one client, but it would be substantial for all of them.

Does shaw no longer offer buy back on old hardware? I think i used to have a 3412 and wanted to upgrade to the pvr version. They bought back my 3412 for $200 and bought a 3416 for about 350ish? It was about 5 years ago but it helped. I'm not sure if they would still do that. They probably don't want to refurb mpeg2 boxes anymore?
 
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#361 ·
For sure, there's no doubt that the cost of switching out all of the MPEG-2 boxes for MPEG-4 boxes would be quite a bit of money, but I think the issue is going to mushroom as more and more channels go MPEG-4 and more customers are affected. In my case, I did not at all expect Shaw to trade my DCT3416 straight across for a DCX3400 (or Gateway). I did, however, suggest giving them my DCT3416 for a discount on an MPEG-4 box, which I think is fair. Unfortunately they did not bite. Their only offer was to give me a second Gateway portal in trade for my DCT3416, take it or leave it kind of thing.

Maybe I'll have to wait for Boxing Week this year again and pray there is some sort of great deal on an MPEG-4 box! But if I ever changed addresses, I would entertain switching to the competition over this.
 
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#362 ·
Update - Nat Geo Wild HD ch 255- Edmonton will be in DNU areas only, currently St. Albert, Terwilligar & Nisku completed.
SD variant available on ch. 175 still.
 
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#366 ·
Sasktel on there page has added in hd
much hd
cbcnn hd
weather network hd
spark in Hd
Fx hd
wfn hd

shaw exo the most hd, bs, maybe they have more on demand movies that cost alot of money to rent.

Give us more hd channels and less exuses
 
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#369 ·
I don't think it means shaw can't provide those channels, it probably means shaw won't carry those channels. Don't forget that shaw has to negotiate carriage terms to carry channels. It's not always financial either. Sometimes the carriage terms are which package it gets carried in, or that the SD version also needs to be carried.

I'm guessing alot of the time shaw isn't carrying an easily accessible channel is because the carriage terms aren't that great.
 
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#370 ·
^Of the three channels mentioned, Weather Network HD, CBC NN HD, and Much HD, the only channel that really has some real bargaining power behind them is Much because they are owned by Bell Media. Much probably does need to be SD and HD twinned in a package, just like Discovery, Space, etc.

I would say that the carriage fee and the bargaining power of the CBC or the owner of the Weather Network is that high. If Rogers, Bell, Telus, MTS, Cogeco, and now SaskTel can carry CBC NN HD why can't Shaw?

Shawchamp has been great to forward our complaints on the lack of CBC NN HD, but Shaw is stepping further and further behind when their competition is offering this channel.
 
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#371 ·
I don't know what % of Shaw has undergone the DNU, but I think that once the saturation of the market is greater, it does open up possibilities with additional channels; however, that doesn't guarantee we will get channels to suit everyone's taste. I could personally lose everything that is not HD, but again, there must still be some need for SD channels if negotiations require carriage of both...
 
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