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dksmc 2012-04-19 04:17 PM

I have a Nokia E61i I bought years ago unlocked. I used it on Rogers.

I am now with Telus and I'm sending my phone in to be repaired and would like to use the Nokia during the time my phones away. Will it work?

Thanks in advance!

alebowgm 2012-04-19 04:19 PM

No, your Nokia E61i should not work on the Telus/Bell 3G (HPSA) network. A quick look at the specs show the phone's 3G mode is only UMTS 2100. As outlined in the first post of this thread, Bell/Telus require UMTS/HSPA 850MHz and/or 1900MHz.

In addition, your Nokia E61i will only work on 2G (GSM/EDGE) networks in Canada, as no one uses UMTS 2100 (its primarily a Europe/Asia/Africa standard). Bell/Telus do not operate a 2G network, although as you pointed out, Rogers does.

JamesK 2012-04-19 05:01 PM

What do you call the old Bell/Telus CDMA EV-DO network, if not 2G? Has it been discontinued?

TorontoColin 2012-04-19 05:31 PM

Actually, Bell and Telus have been calling their CDMA networks 3G since before their HSPA network was live. However, whether it's 3G or not isn't really relevant, as I would assume that he was referring to GSM/EDGE networks.

Also, as I'm sure you well know, like almost every GSM or HSPA device, the E61i will not work on the Bell or Telus CDMA networks, so they are irrelevant in this case, and not worth mentioning other than to confuse the issue.

1945 2012-08-17 02:16 PM

Somebody should educate the Bell CSRs
I went through all the messages in this thread because I had my eye on a GSM-only phone and wanted to try it with my Bell SIM card. The phone would have been ideal for my use but I wanted to be sure it would work before buying one.

Two different Bell CSRs emphatically stated that "any GSM" phone would work on the Bell network.

I was doubtful - and sure enough when I put my SIM card in the phone it wasn't recognized.

JamesK 2012-08-17 04:21 PM

A GSM only phone will never work on Bell, as they've never used that system. 3G phones will work, whether they have GSM or not.

TorontoColin 2012-08-18 11:02 AM

As long as that 3G phone has UMTS or HSPA support for Bell's two frequencies.

But yes, Rogers operates the only national 2G/GSM network in Canada.

I found that Bell CSRs used to be very good about that. I suppose with sales of GSM only phones becoming rare in Canada, they no longer felt the need to be specific in training.

grondinm 2012-10-25 10:15 AM

Thank you for this thread. I just want to confirm my thoughts that this phone would work on the telus network

Thank you.

TorontoColin 2012-10-26 02:02 PM

As long as it's unlocked and those specs are correct, it should work fine.

suheric 2013-01-03 07:52 PM

Will this phone has a chance to have good signal with Telus in Vancouver BC?

I'm looking for dual sim phone and this phone meets my needs very much, just except it supports HSDPA 1900 / 2100.

Anyone has any experience with a phone like this with just HSPA 1900?

TorontoColin 2013-01-04 03:53 PM

If that spec is accurate coverage will likely be limited. 1900 has the same problems as AWS with indoor penetration, so you will likely have trouble getting signal indoors.

corneiliousb 2013-03-30 08:28 PM

I have a phone I was using on the Rogers network. It is a ZTE Blade II. All it got on the Rogers network was the EDGE connection. I have switched to KOODO (Telus) but I tried the old phone on the network today and couldn't get a signal from any tower except ROGERS. No bell, no telus, no koodo.

Will it work, or only intermittently or what?

Network Technology GSM/GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA
Band GSM 900/1800/1900 (Tri-Band) HSDPA 900/1900/2100

TorontoColin 2013-03-30 10:35 PM

You'll have coverage only where Bell/Telus is using 1900 spectrum. Where exactly that would be is hard to say. It's probably not usable day to day.

BGY11 2013-04-01 06:24 PM

Are you at least in a 3G coverage zone? (in this case, I'm referring to HSPA+ coverage -- not CDMA). If not, the phone won't work at all, since Telus/Bell (and their sub-brands) don't support GSM/EDGE service.

Given that on Rogers you'd only see EDGE coverage, I'm guessing that you are in a rural area. In that case, I'm sure the carriers would be more likely to use the 850MHz frequency so that it can cover longer distances with fewer towers.

zigzag 2013-04-24 02:52 AM

HSPA 850MHZ phone
My phone has HSPA at 850MHZ /900MHZ/2100MHZ and UMTS at 2100MHZ.

Can I use it with having only HSPA 850MHZ in Canada? If it does, how well does it work?


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