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2016-12-06 12:26 PM
Morryg I recently did this upgrade to my 8300HD. (160gb to 500gb WD pata drive.) It did the countdown - arrived at HDDF but I 'sat tight' and it continued on and rebooted.

It has been in use for about 2 weeks now and all seems well. This is a pretty easy upgrade and worth trying if you've got a drive around or can get one at a reasonable price. A #10 torx security bit and a phillips screwdriver and you 're good to go.

I found this cisco document useful - PDF Replacing the Hard Drive on a DVR Technical Bulletin:

This is a direct download link - You click it and down comes the PDF - complete with pictures.

I didn't go through the whole tread here so if this is repetition - apologies.

2016-06-14 01:04 PM
57 No, the iHDD is required to hold the IPG, recorded programme listing and other functionality. You cannot run with only an eHDD.
2016-06-13 09:42 PM
Dava I have an 8300HD+ with a dead internal hard drive. I'm wondering if I disconnect the internal drive and use only the external will I be up and running again. The IDE hard drives are hard to find and a compatible external SATA hard drive to use as a primary hard drive rather than an expansion may do the trick.
2016-05-31 11:01 PM
Motley Yeah, rebooting a few times seems to have things working again, at least for the time being. Thanks.

It might be prudent to shop around for an old drive. We don't need a lot of capacity, usually just a one hour show or two for a few days only.

I'm not keen on giving Rogers any more money, particularly for poorly performing machine.
2016-05-31 02:39 PM
oldyellr I see PATA/IDE drives still available for under $100 (but no really big ones). There is a thread on this board on them and how to replace. You will need a special bit for the tamper-proof Torx screws. I would certainly try that before venturing into the mess of Nextbox and Navigatr and I have a spare drive in stock for the purpose.
2016-05-31 02:26 PM
57 Sometimes a second or third reboot may get the iHDD working for a while. I had a similar issue with a very old 8300HD, which I'm now using as a tuner only. At first, several reboots would "wake it up", but after several months I could hear that the iHDD was not functioning properly - trying to restart every few seconds (chirping noise). Eventually the iHDD was completely silent.
2016-05-31 02:13 PM
Motley Yes, I can hear the drive spinning. No clicking though. Thanks for the reply. I'm afraid I may need to buy the NB3, this 8300HD I have was one of the refurbed units from the shopping channel, it has worked well up to now.
2016-05-31 11:52 AM
57 You can use the 8300HD as a tuner, and/or replace the iHDD if you can find one. (It needs to be a PATA, not SATA drive). PATA/IDE drives can be relatively expensive for relatively small drive sizes. You may wish to consider putting the money towards a 9865/NB3 instead. I would not recommend an 8642 as it's very slow under the new Navigatr firmware.

You may also be able to get some $ selling the 8300HD online, or use it as a tuner elsewhere in your home.

Originally Posted by Motley View Post
So, if the 8300HD iHDD boots up, and it continues to function as a tuner, has the iHDD indeed failed?
It may simply be the STB portion that's booting. Can you hear the iHDD spinning/clicking? Clicking is not a good sign.
2016-05-31 10:52 AM
Motley So, if the 8300HD iHDD boots up, and it continues to function as a tuner, has the iHDD indeed failed? I can't record, but still have all the tuner functions, but am unsure as to what to do next?
2016-02-17 10:55 PM
hawk That's certainly something to consider, but it would be a coincidence that the HDD went at that same time as another component. If the box would just turn on as a tuner, I'd be fine with that. But other posts on here seem to indicate if the HDD doesn't at least boot, then it won't ping the Rogers network and get any further than that? That's why I considered it worth a shot to try replacing with another drive.
2016-02-15 04:44 PM
andrew.r I saw a couple of 8300HD boxes for sale right here on the forum for as little as $150 which I found surprising considering they have upgraded 500 GB HDD. A possible consideration for you.

I recall paying something around $80 just for the 500 GB IDE HDD years ago when they were available.

Unfortunately, I have no idea how the 8300HD box compares to any of the new offerings by Rogers but mine still works fine after so many years, it certainly has paid back the $250 cost of purchasing it years ago.
2016-02-15 12:27 AM
57 It's possible you have a part failed in the tuner part of the 8300 (capacitors, etc). The iHDD of one of my 8300HDs failed a while back, but I'm still able to use it as a tuner since it still boots. Perhaps the iHDD was not the problem.
2016-02-14 07:32 PM
hawk The hard drive on my 8300HD gave up about 2 weeks ago, with the ER 50 & ER 63 messages. I read this forum from end to end and followed all of helpful hints that I could. I found a 160GB Seagate IDE drive to replace the 160GB Western Digital original drive. Bought the screwdriver on Amazon, opened the case, put in the new drive, made sure the switch was set to Cable Select and plugged in the box... only to see the same error messages still, followed by the hex countdown. I tried switching the drive to Master as a few others have suggested on here and that didn't make a difference either.

The only thing that's unusual is I tried following the steps for a forced format of the drive (Pause, -, List, List, List). Interestingly, when the old WD drive is installed, the box responds to the commands, but still errors out. When the new replacement drive is in there, it doesn't respond at all. It's got me thinking there could be something else possibly wrong besides the drive, but I'm not sure?

The PVR function is not that important to me. I'm just trying to get this to work again as a cable tuner, as this is attached to a bedroom tv. Before I break down and resort to paying Rogers extortion fees for a new tuner, are there any other suggestions of things I could try?

2015-11-09 03:25 AM
awebber I finally took the 500GB that I'd pulled from my old SD TiVo and stuck it in my 8300HD (in place of the 160GB). I think it went through the whole initialization (Cisco screen, etc.) twice but at the end I had the regular recordings screens with no recordings. Recorded a bunch of stuff on the weekend for fun and it looked like I had about 18-20hr of HD recordings and the drive was reporting 20% full. Is that about right, should it hold about 80-100hr of HD?

There might be a couple of things on the 160GB that I still want to watch. If I power down (pull the power cable) and reconnect the 160GB, will it come up ready to play? And then be okay when I go back to the 500GB? Or will it reformat at some point? I wouldn't want that.

2015-10-21 02:09 AM
awebber Thanks, I think I've read the entire thread at least once, it's an invaluable resource (BTW you had post 999 .

It's not so much that I hoard as that I might be away (or otherwise unable to watch) for a week or two. My TiVo Premiere with the 320GB HDD fills up really fast when recording HD (note that I only use it when on vacation in the US, since it requires a CableCard). I keep thinking I'll upgrade the 320GB HDD and then end up buying yet another multi-TB external drive and pull files down daily.

Will report back if/when I get this 500GB HDD installed and running.

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