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2018-06-11 12:46 PM
ExDilbert That looks like a good choice.
2018-06-11 12:43 PM
Leeboy Saw this one at staples last night

https://www.staples.ca/en/APC-Back-U...6_1-CA_1_20001
2018-06-11 12:41 PM
Leeboy Thanks @57 and @ExDilbert for the speedy helpful advice
2018-06-11 12:39 PM
ExDilbert I use this. It may be discontinued. It seems to have been replaced by this and this. The USB charging ports on the one may be useful for smaller USB powered components. The TV and AV receiver are on the surge only side. Everything else is on the battery backup side.

It's a good idea to choose a model with enough outlets without using any power taps or bars. Never plug a UPS into another UPS or power bar and never plug a surge protected power bar into a UPS. Strange things can happen.
2018-06-11 12:34 PM
57 It's always a good idea to have a PVR on a UPS (Battery side), so you could purchase a small UPS to cover the power draw for it and one with enough outlets to handle all the other stuff, plugging the high power draw equipment like the TV and AVR into the "surge" side and the PVR, Router, Sling into the battery side.

For example: UPSforLESS Power Backup Experts | APC BackUPS BE550G UPS NEW

That's probably as low as I would go, so you can always get more capacity and spend more.
2018-06-11 12:12 PM
Leeboy @ExDilbert , here's a list of my components that are all in the same area. Plasma tv , bell pvr reciever , sling box , PS4 , router , Yamaha Reciever . I'm wondering if you could recommend a product I could benefit from . It doesn't have to be UPS if I don't need it . Thanks
2018-06-11 12:03 PM
Leeboy Thanks for the info and I apologize for missing the sub forum
2018-06-11 11:32 AM
57 @Leeboy , I've moved your post to this existing thread on the topic. There are lots of previous discussions, even though some of them are old. As stated by @ExDilbert above, Mon$ter equipment is typically way overpriced and although the quality is sometimes OK, it's rarely worth the money since other equipment can be had for much less.

See post 235 of this thread. I've been very happy with my APC equipment.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/203-...ml#post2455305

I've found no need for "pure sine-wave" power and I keep my equipment for a long time. (The pure sine-wave power only applies to the battery side anyway when power is lost) My AVR is plugged into the "surge only" side of the UPS as is all my high power draw equipment, so it goes down when there's a power failure. My PVRs and other "low draw" equipment are plugged into the battery side which is also surge protected.
2018-06-11 11:23 AM
ExDilbert I've always liked Tripp Lite products. Their Isobar line represents good quality and value.

A lot of the stuff at Best Buy is overpriced garbage. I purchased $150 for a power bar from them once. After a year I took it apart to see what was in it. The plugs were low grade steel that was starting to corrode and the surge components were the cheapest junk available and almost useless. I've seen $25 power bars that were better made.

Monster products had a reputation for good quality but were always overpriced. The prices have gone down but I wonder if the quality has as well.

A good quality UPS can be a good idea but use it with caution. Some components can benefit from backup power but others could be damaged by a cheap UPS. Components, such a AV receivers with transformers, should receive surge protection only or only be used with a pure sine wave output UPS for power protection. AV receivers can draw quite a lot of power so a 1500w UPS is required. A 1500 watt pure sine wave UPS will be quite expensive. The components that will benefit most from backup power are things like PVRs or HTPCs that could suffer from interrupted recordings and other issues when a sudden power loss occurs. Components like AV receivers and TVs generally only need surge protection. Just providing surge protection for most components and power backup to critical components with a 500w-1000w UPS will be a lot cheaper. I have an 800VA APC UPS powering my AV system with the AV receiver and TV on the surge only side. It has worked well.
2018-06-11 10:08 AM
Leeboy
Monster HTS - 1700 turns on and off

I think my monster power Center has packed it in . Yesterday within 15 mins it switched itself ( and what was plugged in ) on and off twice . I had my PS4 , a lamp and my Yamaha Reciever plugged in .

My electrician friend told me to get sone sort of UPS battery back up unit . I see them made by APC for $60 to $600 . What's everyone's thoughts ? Is monster worth getting a new one ? Battery back up ? Is there another brand that's a better value ? Thanks in advance
2016-03-26 02:27 AM
embee87 PS Audio make very good surge protection power products although I do not own one. I trust the company and do own a PS Audio 4.6 stereo pre-amplifier that is the heart of my 2 channel stereo. I protect my audio systems, home theater system and Mac Pro computer with ISOBAR Ultra surge protection by TrippLite. I have two Isobar Ultra 8 outlet and two Isobar Ultra 4 outlet. TrippLite makes cheaper surge power bars but I stick with their heavy duty ISOBAR lineup. My very first 8 outlet Isobar had an issue after about 15 years so I contacted TrippLite by email in Chicago. They asked me for some information and shipped a brand new replacement no charge that week. That is a real lifetime warranty that means lifetime!
2015-10-09 09:41 PM
ssbtech
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Originally Posted by wz286t View Post
If you happen to still have any APC 8 Series or 7 Series surge strips manufactured before 2003 - you might be able to have them replaced due to this massive recall:
I just received 2 replacements after about a 10 week wait.
2015-03-16 05:34 PM
57 I have had 5 APC UPS and I've been very happy with their performance. Here's the history:

BF250, Purchased 1997, Battery replaced in 2012. Unit (inside circuit) failed in 2013 and has been recycled.
BF500BB, Purchased 2004, Battery replaced in 2012 when the APC "test" indicated poor battery. Functioning well.
BX1000, Purchased 2005, (replaced in 2016 with UPS APC BE750BB when it failed "test" on circuitry)
ES750, Purchased 2011, Original Battery. Still functioning just fine.

So, the ones that needed replacing lasted 16 and 11 years The other two are still working after 14 and 7 years. The most recent one is only 2 years old (for me), and was purchased refurbished for around $50, so I'm unsure of the overall age.

APC UPS usually have a self-test and it will tell you if that test fails (circuit and battery). I have also "needed" these UPS during some recent power failures and they have performed well, keeping my equipment running as long as necessary (PVRs and computer).

The smaller UPS were around $50 each and the large one was $150. I typically see no reason to purchase a "smart" UPS for the home due to the high cost, but that's your choice.

Good place to buy UPS or replacement batteries: UPSforLESS | Power Backup Experts | Home
If you watch the sales at electronics stores, you can usually get a UPS for half price.


OT - The original battery in one car lasted over 6 years and the replacement battery in our other car was 8 years old when I traded the (19-year old) car last year - although I would have probably replaced it before the winter. Whenever I replace car batteries, I get the best one I can find that fits. I use Crosstown Battery Sales on Musgrave St. for car and alarm system batteries.
2015-03-16 04:58 PM
JamesK I also have a couple of APC Smart UPSs that I bought perhaps 12-15 years ago. Other than replacing batteries a couple of times, no problems.
2015-03-16 04:58 PM
oldyellr
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Originally Posted by ExDilbert View Post
I've never seen a lead-acid battery that lasted much beyond 5 years. Seven year old UPS batteries might appear to be OK but they will likely fail quickly under stress, right when they are needed most. I'd recommend testing the battery by running an extended self test or unplugging the UPS for about 2 to 5 minutes under load (or half its stated run time, if known.) If the APC software is installed, running an extended self test will recalibrate the battery ratings and indicate if it needs replacing.
You're probably right. I know I got a message about the battery years ago, but then it stopped coming up. Right now it tells me it has 26 minutes battery time, which seems like less than what it used to say. But I don't need something that will let me work for an hour after a power outage, just something that will let me save my work without losing it.

Oh yeah, APC recommends I replace the battery at least once every 3 years, but since the UPS is doing all I expect of it, I see no point. I replaced my car battery after 5 years last fall because it occasionally let me down the previous winter. However, an old UPS battery won't leave me stranded in a snowstorm.
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