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2019-04-01 04:05 PM
Korpela No internet service at my cottage unless I install Explorenet. I think I know what to do now. Thanks for the advice.
2019-04-01 03:37 PM
ExDilbert Not being on a phone line will not affect the day to day operation for satellite TV service. It will affect PPV service. Just don't buy any PPV programs. Connecting the receiver to the internet for VOD could be an issue. It is also used for location and is a substitute for connecting it to a phone line. To avoid that use a media box, smartphone or other supported device for watching VOD. Using a smartphone or tablet away from home is perfectly legitimate. It may limit the available programming.

The one issue that might come up is Bell calling to verify receiver location. That happens infrequently and usually for people with many receivers. All that will happen is that the receivers that cannot be verified will become inactive after a time. In order to activate them, simply call back when they can all be verified.
2019-04-01 02:33 PM
Korpela If I could get some OTA reception I would go that route, but there is nothing available without a high tower and large antenna. Having just SD is fine at my off- grid cottage. I think I can buy a used 6131 receiver off Kijiji for about $70 and a dual LNB dish for about $30. There is no phone service there so I can't attach a phone line like I do at home. How will this affect it's operation?
2019-04-01 01:09 PM
ExDilbert I've got to wonder if it's even worth activating 4700 and 3500 receivers. As I recall, these are SD models. Some channels are HD only so it will limit what can be watched. Channels that are available will be low quality and present issues such as letterboxing on HDTVs.

One option would be to simply take a 6131 to the cottage when you travel there. If the dish and wiring are identical then it won't even need a check switch. Another option would be to rent or purchase another receiver, either new or used.

According the Bell, the location must be changed every time a receiver is moved. If there is only one receiver on the account this is not an issue except for billing purposes. Having more than one receiver in different locations is against CRTC guidelines and requires a second account. That's because cable companies complained about satellite companies having an unfair competitive advantage due to free cottage accounts. Then broadcasters chimed in about losing revenue. (Note that this policy is directed at Shaw Direct. Shaw Direct once provided a free second dish but now discounts the second account. Bell and cable companies typically charge full price for a cottage account.) The requirement of a second account for the cottage is more about Canadian broadcasters and BDUs gouging customers than anything else.
2019-04-01 01:08 PM
Originally Posted by Korpela View Post
Is it legal?
No, it is against the terms of the agreement with Bell. If Bell calls your location and you are unable to provide the numbers on the screen (Location ID) for all of your activated receivers, they may shut you down, or leave only one box active. See:
2019-04-01 12:01 PM
Allan B Bell may or may not reactivate the old box's, try via the Web Site, see how that goes.
2019-04-01 11:41 AM
jdevlin Is it legal? Technically no. Only one location allowed.

Swapping smart cards between receivers does not work. However you should be able to activate the old receivers from your account. Or just try hooking them up and wait for them to update. Unless you called bell to remove them they should still work.
2019-04-01 11:34 AM
Korpela I have a 4700 and a 3500 receiver from before I went to HD at my home with 6131 receivers which have been working well for several years. Is it possible to install one of my old receivers at my cottage and bring one of my smart cards from the 6131 receivers to the cottage and use it in the old receiver when I go to the cottage. Will it work? Is it legal? I pay Bell enough for my service at home and I'd like to think its portable by bringing the card with me and sticking it into another receiver.
2018-04-26 09:33 AM
17671 I don't think you can.

A while back a relative gave me their old Dish network receiver but the bell rep was not able to add the receiver to my account, possibly because it was not in bell's inventory. Secondly, Dish dishes point to different birds in the sky than what bell uses so their receivers are also programmed to look for different birds than what the bell receivers are designed to receive and there is no known way to reprogram a dish receiver to look for 91 and 82 degrees, vs dish 110 and 119 degrees
lastly, im quite sure the answer is no
2018-04-26 09:23 AM
dish network on bell expressvu account

hi, i already have a bell receiver, but my usb dont detect my external hard drive, its the 3rd receiver it did the same thing for me,
i can get a dish network receiver for a lot cheaper than bell receiver,
my question is : can i use a dish network hoppe 3 receiver on my existing bell account, is they will accept the code from this receiver ?

2016-12-25 12:25 AM
morehp1 Ok well here's something different about using your smartcard in a replacement receiver.
I recently bought a used 6141 for my brother and a used 9241 for my mother as Christmas gifts. I called Bell told them I bought 2 used receivers a gifts and wanted to make sure they could be activated on my brother's and mothers separate accounts. I also specifically asked if they would need new smartcards because I would order/get new smartcards for the receivers if it was required since I wanted the receivers to work when I gave it to them. The bell rep asked if they had active accounts and active receivers. I said yes they did in fact my brother had several active receivers in his house. The rep said I did not have to get new smartcards that they could put one of their existing active cards from an active receiver into the new replacement receiver and call bell and they would activate the new replacement receiver. He did say once the card was activated in the new/replacement receiver it would no longer work in the old receiver. I told him no problem as these receivers would be replacing one already being used.

I guess I'll find out tomorrow or boxing day if what the bell rep told me is true or not. I gave my brother his unit already and he said he has used his existing card and activated a replacement receiver.. we checked with bell and the receiver numbers for both were good to be activated on their accounts... just needed to put the cards in and call bell and have them send the activation codes... then teach my mother who is pushing 80 how to PVR .. my parents use to record VHS all the time.. years ago before PVRs were around I bough them a DVD recorder, I don't think they used it to record anything. not even once.
2016-11-09 04:48 AM
Allan B Not all 9400's even have a Card.

Plug it in, see if you get the preview Channels, all the others should be red. Then call Bell to add it to your account.
2016-11-08 05:26 PM
jdevlin There is no 'Putting my card in it". The card that came with the unit stays in it. You call up Bell and tell them you want the unit added to your account. They will ask you for the card # of the unit. If it is not stolen or a rental then they will add it.
2016-11-08 02:26 PM
57 I developed the following guidelines for buying and selling a Rogers Box:

Would someone please advise if the procedure is similar/identical for BTV? Thanks.
2016-11-08 01:12 PM
Samantha.xo Hi, I am new to this site so I am not exactly sure if your the right person to ask this question too but I just bought a bell 9400 receiver off someone thinking that they would not be selling it if It wasn't useable but clearly I was very wrong .. because when I plugged it into my TV and put my card in all channels were blocked I've tried everything .. I tried getting a hold of the person I got it off of and he is no longer replying to my messages and I only knew his number he already took the ad down so I can't even message him thru there anymore either. . My close friend said I'd have to call bell and see if he owes money on his bill which would be a reason it would not work or if it's a rental .. my question is say he doesn't owe anything and it's not a rental will they let me activate it or will they still need to talk to him because if that's the case I'm screwed right ?
Thank you in advance for any info at all
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