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2020-02-24 04:43 PM
bigoranget Yes, it absolutely would. Between the locals, specialties, ethnic and PPV channels, you're probably at around 300 some odd channels. That is a lot of bandwidth free'd up. Yes, some of that will be replaced with HD equivalents but for all the SD channels that remain, you could probably fit them on 2 transponders using MPEG-4 compression and 8PSK Turbo modulation. Plus there is still a bunch of transponders on Nimiq 4 that could fit another HD channel or two. If you look at the traffic plan on Nimiq 4, 31 of the 32 transponders is used for SD channels. If you drop all the channels that are already in HD, convert the remaining to MPEG-4 HD or SD, you'd have at least 10x transponders remaining. As an example Shaw Direct is using 4 on F1, 22 on F2 and 16 on G1 for a total of 42 transponders. Bell is using 64 in their current configuration. Even with all the ethnic and small community channels that Shaw doesn't carry, most of those would be MPEG-4 SD and would fit on one transponder.

I don't know what's going on with the Satellite division these days. It's been years since they released a new receiver. They may be holding off on the MPEG-2 decommission because they don't have enough stock to replace all the MPEG-2 hardware that's out there. My guess is whatever receivers they are using today are not being manufactured anymore.
2020-02-24 04:09 PM
MCIBUS If they would get rid of a lot of their PPV channels t it might?
2020-02-24 01:07 PM
reidw @bigoranget : One HD channel takes up the bandwidth of six SD channels. Would dropping the SD channels really free up that much room?
2020-02-24 11:42 AM
bigoranget The older HD receivers have been retired. I'm pretty sure all MPEG-4 capable receivers can tune past 999.

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Even if Bell dropped the duplicates they'd still not have any extra bandwidth for more real HD channels nor could their current equipment ever have the capability of offering 4K.
This is why they should drop all the SD channels. It's pointless to uplink an SD and HD duplicate of 100s of channels. I get there are lots of SD receivers out there but many other providers have forced users to upgrade to the new MPEG-4 capable receivers. Shaw Direct retired all their MPEG-2 hardware and I believe Shaw Cable has been retiring many of their MPEG-2 receivers too. Pretty much all providers don't even sell/rent MPEG-2 capable hardware to new customers. If they dropped all the SD channels, they would have more than enough room to add missing HD specialties and locals. For the channels that are only available in SD, those can also be migrated to MPEG-4 to save room.

Migrating to an all MPEG-4 line-up not only benefits customers with more HD choice but it will also save on uplink costs. I'm fairly sure they could power down as many 10 transponders between the two satellites.
2020-02-22 07:26 PM
reidw @MCIBUS : The official channel range for HD on Bell sat. is 1000 and up. However Bell also assigned the 800 range for HD because some of the older HD receivers only went to 999. I suspect that there are very few of those older receivers still in use but Bell I guess doesn't want to lose any customers who might have the older units. There's no use of extra bandwidth by the way even though the channel appears in two places so it really doesn't matter. Even if Bell dropped the duplicates they'd still not have any extra bandwidth for more real HD channels nor could their current equipment ever have the capability of offering 4K. Basically Bell Sat. is looking at a bleak future in the long run.
2020-02-22 01:25 PM
MCIBUS If I'm not mistaken I do believe the HD on Bll sat are in the 1000 range.

Regarding the 800' I seem to recall there was an issue with some receivers regarding the 800's years bac=k whether the fixeds this issue I'm noyt sure. Someone on this forum mentioned years ago. Where that post is I don't know.
2020-02-22 09:43 AM
jdevlin
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I've got the movie pkg (Western Canada).
Recently when they had a free preview for the movie pkg, the Eastern CR1 feed was available. Now it's gone.
Anyone in the West still have that Eastern feed? What reason could they possibly have to not make both feeds available?
I'm in the east and I had the west feed which is gone now.
2020-02-21 05:14 PM
MCIBUS TWN HD & MeteoMedia HD I'm assuming there national feed and not local feed?

With Bell Fibe(at least in Ottawa) the SD version is local while the HD version is the national feed?
2020-02-21 05:08 PM
mr.eous
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Yeah I can't wait for the Day the Ontario Legislative Assembly Channel comes to Bell TV so I can watch more of Doug Ford and his Cronies... NOT! I dont think anyone wants that channel these days.
It's the principle. Bell satellite TV has never carried the Ontario Legislature TV service, not even in standard definition, but they do have the Legislative Assemblies of Nunavut & NWT. So, does anyone want to watch more of Justin Trudeau and his cronies on CPAC, now that Bell added its HD complement?
2020-02-21 04:41 PM
57 Please feel free to post any new channels in the Official Thread.

https://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/10-...ml#post3097673

Discussion should remain in this thread.
2020-02-21 03:44 PM
Andysradio AMI English and French were also added. The are in the low 1000s
2020-02-21 03:08 PM
bigoranget
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So which HD channels where added recently to Bell Sat?
I see that CPAC HD was added in English and French. I also see The Weather Network HD and MeteoMedia HD. Not sure if there is anything else that is new.
2020-02-21 01:33 PM
Smokin Joe
BellTV Channel Discussion Thread

I’m was waiting for Fox News HD, H2 HD and AHC HD. My service is over at the end of the month so I never got them with Bell.


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2020-02-21 01:29 PM
conundrum5 I've got the movie pkg (Western Canada).
Recently when they had a free preview for the movie pkg, the Eastern CR1 feed was available. Now it's gone.
Anyone in the West still have that Eastern feed? What reason could they possibly have to not make both feeds available?
2020-02-21 11:50 AM
MCIBUS So which HD channels where added recently to Bell Sat?
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