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2019-07-31 02:47 PM
57 I haven't been following IndyCar very closely this year due to half the races not being on TV, so I forgot to record the last race. I found the results on the main Indycar website and was surprised to see a 30 minute condensed video of the race. Not a bad way to watch, but you already know who wins (which doesn't matter that much if there's good racing to watch, unfortunately....)
2019-06-23 03:05 PM
Wheelman Scott Dixon has really thrown the season away. Unfortunate at COTA with the yellow, gets caught up in a crash at Indy, crashes out at Detroit, crashes out at Texas and now Road America.

He was so fast today at Road America but he decided to be tentative and make an error which caused him to get hit from behind. Had he not got hit while being the leading car with black tires he would have been in 2nd place by the second stint. After that I have no doubt he would have finished 2nd.

Unbelievable! Dixon should be right up there in the championship but when it was comes to racing wheel to wheel against other cars he's just got poor racecraft. I think I've said the same thing in other seasons too. What a shame!
2019-06-12 07:53 PM
Tridus I don't think F1 being a parade is Liberty's fault. They're working on fixing the rules as best they can, but that mess was in place before them. The change a few years ago to make cars bigger and more "aggressive" looking had the side effect of making Monaco basically impossible to race on, as the track is so narrow that the bigger cars can't race on it. The budget end is so lopsided that it's effectively two different leagues.

I tend to like the job Liberty is doing overall, but the stuff that really needs fixing in F1 is also the stuff that entrenched interests in the teams are most unwilling to change. A new series won't magically fix that Ferrari is going to want to spend a whole lot more money than Penske.
2019-06-11 02:03 PM
Inglewood @Tridus - as I mentioned before, I stopped watching this year...been watching my whole life.

I'm not jumping through hoops and spending good money to watch IndyCar. I watched the Indy 500 and will catch up on the highlights and use my free time for something else.

I sometimes wish that some of the manufacturers in F1, and the Chevy/Honda Indycar programs would just all bail on both series they are in and create a new open wheel series. There is too many levels of "management" and stakeholders. Guys like Tony George almost killed Indycar, and it wouldn't take much to get a new series going and bury the remains of what we have now. Some great tracks would easily switch - too many are being held hostage and would love a new series to appreciate them. Liberty Media is turning F1 into a parade.

Just imagine, names like Penske, Ganassi, Andretti, Honda and Chevrolet joining up with Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren, and other F1 teams to start a new series, with new rules, and without multiple levels of rights holders, on most of the classic tracks. I know I would watch.
2019-06-10 07:39 AM
Tridus Sadly, I think this deal will kill Indycar in Canada. The only races I've watched were the NBC ones, and absolutely nobody seems to be talking about it except around here. The series is invisible.
2019-06-08 07:46 PM
Wheelman
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Since it was on NBC, I decided to watch the Detroit races this past weekend. Another frustrating experience for me:

1. The rain-delayed Saturday race switched channels at 6PM with about 20 minutes remaining. Not much good to me since I had recorded the event and was watching late in the evening (having added 3 hours just in case...)

2. Although I was able to see all of the race on Sunday, there were far too many full-course yellows for my liking and I also came to the realization (not for the first time), that, although certain drivers have more skill than others, the luck of the yellow plays too much of a roll in deciding the winners/losers of a race. Some call this "strategy", but really, it's often mostly luck.

I realized that I don't really miss IndyCar much this year.
That's the american style of racing which I loathe. Unfortunately Formula 1 has been heading in that direction for quite some time.

I stumbled upon this article just now.

https://norrismcdonald.ca/indycar-to...-tv-schmozzle/

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The contract between Sportsnet and IndyCar ran out following the 2018 season and would have to be renegotiated. This happened just as there was a change in senior management at Sportsnet and all programming and spending put under review. At or about the same time, IndyCar took its TV marketing “in-house.”

This IndyCar TV marketing department was – apparently – very blasé about a TV deal for Canada – assuming, presumably, that a new arrangement with Sportsnet was a no-brainer. As a result, they didn’t look at alternatives. I know, for instance, that nobody from IndyCar ever approached TSN.

When they did get around to calling Sportsnet – not that long ago – IndyCar was shocked to learn that Sportsnet wasn’t interested. The review I referenced several paragraphs ago had determined that IndyCar was on the chopping block. To make matters worse, none of the people IndyCar talked to at Sportsnet were auto racing fans, so the series didn’t have a champion.
Ha! Rogers head honcho's don't even care for Indycar. And Indycar's in house marketing team fumbled the ball. Unbelievable! If Indycar negotiated rights with TSN, I wouldn't even need to subscribe to any Sportsnet channels. What a missed opportunity. I dream of one channel having rights to all motorsports. For too long motorsports has taken a backseat to other sports.

I can't even watch the Weathertech sports car championship online for free since they secured a deal with Bell that puts it on Discovery Velocity. Terrible! Just terrible. So fragmented! Should I even subscribe to a sports channel at all anymore? I'm tempted to end sports subscription permanently. And just do away with motorsports all together if that's how they want to treat motorsports. Like a 2nd class citizen.
2019-06-04 06:55 PM
Tridus Yeah I watched it too and there was so many yellows. And a red. It's really out of hand.

People bemoan the big runoffs in F1, but that does do a lot in helping to avoid every little incident turning into a safety car.
2019-06-04 10:56 AM
Inglewood Something needs to be done about the Yellow flags - you might as well not even try until the closing stages and hope for a yellow these days.

Even the Indy 500 had that yellow at the end that could have changed results if Rossi won by allowing him to bunch up. Also gives too much of a fuel advantage to some teams that run low in hope of a yellow to either re-fuel or conserve gas.
2019-06-03 10:59 AM
57 Since it was on NBC, I decided to watch the Detroit races this past weekend. Another frustrating experience for me:

1. The rain-delayed Saturday race switched channels at 6PM with about 20 minutes remaining. Not much good to me since I had recorded the event and was watching late in the evening (having added 3 hours just in case...)

2. Although I was able to see all of the race on Sunday, there were far too many full-course yellows for my liking and I also came to the realization (not for the first time), that, although certain drivers have more skill than others, the luck of the yellow plays too much of a roll in deciding the winners/losers of a race. Some call this "strategy", but really, it's often mostly luck.

I realized that I don't really miss IndyCar much this year.
2019-05-28 03:03 PM
Inglewood I wish that SAP would allow the races without commentary. F1 allows no commentary as an option on their service and I enjoy watching the races that way.

I do have to say after decades of ABC broadcasting the Indy 500, I did find the NBC crew to be a breath of fresh air. The only thing I didn't like is that it seemed that they had a commercial break every 2-3 minutes.

My wife also only watches this one race each year (I'll watch more races in a weekend then she has in a decade) - and she really likes that the Indy 500 usually has at least one female driver and she also likes that Danica Patrick was on the commentary team. I really think that IndyCar does a great job of promoting female drivers as equals instead of a side attraction like F1/FIA wants to with the W Series. European open wheel racing can learn a lot from Indycar to get more female fans involved.
2019-05-28 02:18 PM
Wheelman When I heard Mclaren were going to have a technical partnership with Carlin I was skeptical if Alonso would even do well. I'm not surprised he failed to qualify.

Although the previous ABC commentators were absolutely atrocious I did appreciate how they didn't speak during the opening laps of the Indy 500. I didn't realize how much better it sounded without anyone speaking until the NBC guys spoke during the opening laps.
2019-05-28 10:30 AM
Inglewood The funny thing is what McLaren is admitting in public - you know that they are only revealing probably 10% of the comedy of errors that happened.

I always love it when an athlete (or company) goes into another sport/field and thinks they are going to dominate and fails miserably.

The racing world is full of people who boast big results, and fail quickly. It's always best to keep your mouth shut and let results speak for themselves.
2019-05-27 07:23 AM
Tridus McLaren's efforts in Indy this year were a gong show in general: McLaren explains comedy of errors that led to Fernando Alonso's Indy 500 nightmare

They would be better served either partnering with an established team, or running one full time themselves. This whole thing came off as an amateur exercise.
2019-05-21 09:45 AM
Inglewood During all the SKY UK F1 pre-race shows they kept hyping Alonso at Indy all season long. Good on the drivers in Indycar for knocking him out. Alonso really needs to race the whole IndyCar season and not think he can jump in for one race and win.

Another year gone for him, and he'll be another year older next year...

Surprised more at Chilton not qualifying.
2019-05-19 06:32 PM
fansportsf1 Alonso DNQ for the Indy 500
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