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2020-01-24 03:27 PM
oldyellr Yes, technically "cable" can be any way that TV is delivered via a hard connection as opposed to OTA. It was always coax cable, analog, then digital. Even Rogers Ignite comes to your house via coax. I have Rogers digital cable and my phone and internet now is fibre from my ISP. But my ISP now also has IPTV similar to Ignite and I'm looking at switching to that from my Rogers VIP if I can save some money with bundling. When I mentioned to my family I was thinking of going to this and cancelling cable because they don't watch it anymore, just Roku and Android box, they said it's still "cable" to them, even though it's not coax. I guess it's you define "cable" as strictly coax or not. As to the name of this forum, "Rogers Cable", until coax TV delivery is obsolete, we're in a transitional phase.
2020-01-24 02:43 PM
57 Thread renamed and separate thread for Ignite created. Thanks for the suggestion.
2020-01-24 01:46 PM
ExDilbert There is essentially no such thing as Rogers Cable TV anymore. I would take Rogers Cable TV to mean the discontinued analog service. That was replaced with Rogers Digital TV which was similar and backward compatible but essentially a new service since it required digital boxes for reception of digital channels. Programming packages for analog and Digital TV diverged significantly, especially after the widespread adoption of HDTV. Digital TV is now being replaced by Ignite TV which is an incompatible service delivered using new technology.

Rogers Cable TV could loosely be defined as all three services but that could lead to confusion. Since Rogers stopped selling Digital TV, programming packages for Digital TV and Ignite TV have started to diverge. Maybe this thread should be closed or renamed and be superseded by separate Digital TV and Ignite TV programming threads.
2020-01-24 01:23 PM
JamesK ^^^^
Ignite is the latest Rogers TV service, which uses IP rather than the traditional RF channels.
2020-01-24 01:18 PM
nfitz
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@nfitz ,Good question, I am not sure you can even get ignite TV outside a bundle.
Ignite? I thought this was the Rogers Cable TV discussion, not the Ignite discussion.
2020-01-23 10:39 PM
ExDilbert
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Basic is $25 a month ... so does that make Flex 5 $30 a month and Flex 10 $35 a month?
It should, but I'm not sure if they are available outside a more expensive bundle with internet and phone. They have 45 and 50 flex channels to choose from so it's a better channel choice than a fixed theme pack. It looks like CTV Sci-Fi is available as a flex channel in both in Flex 5 and Flex 10.

https://www.rogers.com/web/consumer/...elflex5_en.pdf
2020-01-23 03:31 PM
bluedrongo @nfitz ,

Good question, I am not sure you can even get ignite TV outside a bundle.

At the time I moved to an Ignite TV bundle, I had my tv with Bell satellite, I pretty much got 150 unlimited internet with home phone and Flex 5 for same price as I had been paying for Internet plus phone.
Of course this only lasts for 12 months.
But with the Flex 5 package, you are given 5 flex channels that you can swap straight away if they're not to your liking.
THe 5 flex channels I was given were all rubbish channels. I switched them over and currently have Showcase, CTV Drama ( Old Bravo), W, Turner Classic Movies and Spark.
Btw, AMC is a flex channel too.
2020-01-23 03:09 PM
nfitz
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Space (now CTV Sci-Fi) for $7 a month is a ripoff as well. CTV Sci-Fi
I thought about that last time - but when I looked at what those channels aired, there was not one thing I'd watch on any of them, so I went for the $7. Paying $3 more for nothing I'd ever watch would be a rip-off!

I'm planning to do the same again soon ... and I'll have to make the same call. But I haven't looked at what those channels show - but I haven't missed any of them. Showcase might be a no brainer - but it doesn't seem to be included.

Not sure what these Flex packages are ... they've never come up when I've been searching for Cable pricing.

Currently I'm on Select for $43 a month, but feel I'm paying too much, with the streaming universe taking over. Basic is $25 a month ... so does that make Flex 5 $30 a month and Flex 10 $35 a month?
2020-01-22 08:40 PM
ExDilbert Large packages like Premium are designed to support zombie channels owned by vertically integrated media companies. Zombie channels are channels that keep staff and programming costs at such low levels that they make millions of dollars in profits due to being included in large programming packages. Most consumers don't want them but are forced to accept them in order to obtain a few channels they do want. Many zombie channels are owned by corporations like Bell and Rogers that stand to make large profits from including them in their consumer offerings. Packages that include a choice of fewer channels at a reasonable cost would eventually make zombie channels unprofitable if they became popular with consumers.
2020-01-21 11:09 PM
whitbyterry It is clearly priced to sell more channels because it looks good for those channels to show more people have them.


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2020-01-21 10:44 PM
ExDilbert Space (now CTV Sci-Fi) for $7 a month is a ripoff as well. CTV Sci-Fi is included in the Drama & Comedy theme pack with 8 other channels for $10. That's just over $1 per channel. If added individually, those channels would cost about $50. Several other theme packs are about $1 per channel and contain channels that cost $4 or $7 individually. Flex 5 and Flex 10 are $5 and $10 more than Basic. That's just $1 per channel. Flex 5 would cost less than Basic plus CTV Sci-Fi .
2020-01-21 03:58 PM
nfitz
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The same way that Bell Fibe is able to "hobble" their service to allow for only TV, Rogers will probably be able to offer the same thing once digital cable is gone, which may not be for years.
Many years I hope.

I really don't see what Ignite offers me - I have no interest in changing Internet providers, or any of Rogers other services. I own my own Netbox, that's only about 2 years old (previous PVR the hard-drive failed after about 10 years).

Meanwhile Rogers TV is becoming increasingly irrelevant in the broadcast landscape, with more and more stuff everyone watch being streamed. The continuing decline in quality of network TV shows doesn't help.

Don't really need much more than $25 cable these days - particularly as you can now add channels to basic. (I still have the $40 package with a $10 discount, to get TSN and Sportsnet ... but increasingly, the sports I watch aren't being carried on either any more - so I can see those going one day). Occasionally I add a channel like Space for $7 a month, and drop it a few months later.

$100+ for bundle sounds like a complete rip-off to me - that's more than my Internet + Cable combined!
2020-01-21 03:50 PM
bigoranget I know for Source Cable customers in Hamilton, your only option is Ignite TV/Internet after you transition to Rogers. If you want traditional digital TV service, you have to remain with Source Cable (for now).
2020-01-21 02:32 PM
57 The same way that Bell Fibe is able to "hobble" their service to allow for only TV, Rogers will probably be able to offer the same thing once digital cable is gone, which may not be for years.

https://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/188...v-service.html
2020-01-21 01:39 PM
Dr.Dave Click "Basic TV" and it takes you to this link - Starter Package $24.99/mo + Nextbox HD Terminal $12.00/mo.

https://www.rogers.com/consumer/tv/s...arter-channels

I read a Rogers quarterly report that said they had stopped selling Nextbox TV, so this may be limited to the Starter Package to meet CRTC requirements.
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