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2015-10-24 09:42 PM
dukie Ugg.. I really wanted to go shaw. But I will call bell monday to see if they offer the free recievers too!
Thanks for the help folks.
2015-10-23 08:41 AM
JasperJoe I run two TVs in HD off a single 630. My big TV is in the basement and is connected via HDMI and my smaller TV and receiver in the living room above connected with component.

Two coaxes to the dish of course. Had to fish the second line through when I switched from Bell to SD.
2015-10-23 08:25 AM
Allan B There is a way to send HD over Coax but it is very expensive. I very often use HD Modulators to achieve this and it is very good indeed, I feed via a std RG6 coax many TV's, think 186 is the most so far, in a Hotel. The Picture Quality is superb and the distances you can run are almost limitless, again I have fed almost 1km from the Modulator to the furthest TV.

As an option, I would look into Bell TV, as the Sat provider, so you only need the one RG6 that is there now and then what about considering sending the HD Signals via a Wireless system to the TV's.? Think I have used Brite-View in the past, with very good results.
2015-10-23 12:26 AM
Obed
Flat coax through windows solution?

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Originally Posted by dukie View Post
Hey folks.
I have the drywall done and have tvs on each end of the room.
Builder has only coax in the wall.
Any ideas?
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Originally Posted by dukie View Post
As far as two coax for the pvr..I read somewhere on this forum, that there is a fix for this. Am I wrong?
lf you don't want to go through the drywall the real simple fix might be running flat coax through the windows. Would the location of the TV's and any windows work with running extra coax cables from the Shaw Direct dish using Flat Coax for just the 6 inches needed to go through windows? (Flat Coax is easily purchased online if you can't find any locally.)

I would suggest:
- 1 extra coax cable running from the dish through the window to your main HD PVR to provide the 2nd coax necessary there.
- 2 extra coax cables running from the dish directly through a window to a second HD PVR in the rec room.
- splitting the hdmi or component out from the rec room HD PVR to feed the additional TV in the rec room.

The Shaw Direct quad lnb supports 4 coax cables directly so no need for additional switches. But you would have to live with extra cable runs on the exterior and interior of your property.

I did something similar a few years back moving into a rental home with a single coax run in the drywall in order to avoid drilling any holes in the property contrary to the lease. Worked like a charm for me. Landlord was quite content. And my thanks to this forum for informing me about flat coax!
2015-10-22 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dukie View Post
1. I know I could hook one up via the hdmi and one on coax.

2. As far as two coax for the pvr. I read somewhere on this forum, that there is a fix for this. Am I wrong?
1. With Shaw Direct (and any service provider) the TV downstream of the STB on the coax would see an SD, not HD signal, as discussed earlier in this thread - the STB is doing the "tuning", not the TV.

2. You need two coax to the Shaw Direct 630 PVR from the dish, as I discussed earlier in this thread and as discussed in the link in post 4. There is no "fix" and unfortunately you are wrong, or you confused Shaw Direct with BellTV.

I see that you also posted in the Bell forum asking about 2 coax. Bell has a method whereby you can connect the dish to the HDPVR via one coax, however, the connection from the PVR to the TV still needs to be HDMI to have HD show on the TV. The two coax to the TVs are useless for HD, unless you're going to go OTA, wherein the TVs do the tuning.

OTA is totally different because there you're using the TV's internal tuner and you don't have a PVR. The setup is different for Shaw Direct, as discussed earlier in this thread. Sorry to hear about your knee. Perhaps you can get someone else to install the OTA antenna for you and use OTA, provided you're happy without a PVR using the current "coax" configuration. If you wish to discuss OTA, please see the following welcome thread and follow the instructions in that thread. It is possible to have recording capability for OTA, but not with your current coax configuration. OTA recording requires an OTA PVR, or HTPC and then you'd feed the signal from whatever device you choose to the two TVs, via HDMI, not coax if you want HD.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/81-o...%2A%2A%2A.html
2015-10-22 06:33 PM
dukie I have been using ota up until now. So please bear with me via having this done before the drywall.
I also would have run my own wires but due to shattering my knee, I have relied on my builder.
That said, I was going to install my ota antennas but due to the injury I will be laid up for up to two years. So that is why the change to dish.

I WANT to show the same program on both tvs. As they are on either side of the room with the pool table and dart board between.
It is a sports room for races, football etc.
Just thought I could use one stb downstairs and one up. Only having to buy two units.
I know I could hook one up via the hdmi and one on coax. But I would like to keep it in the mechanical room where both coax starts.

As far as two coax for the pvr..I read somewhere on this forum, that there is a fix for this. Am I wrong?
2015-10-22 06:28 PM
JasperJoe Why should he have the main coax at the electrical box? What is the advantage?
2015-10-22 02:54 PM
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1. You would get the same channel on both TVs.

2. You should have the main coax at the electrical box. Best to get a multi-switch to split the coax there and get a receiver for each TV.
1. Yeah, but it would be Standard Definition, not HD. No use in having an HDTV or an HDPVR if you're looking at coax downstream of the STB. A typical installation these days for any service provider in Canada is one (or two) coaxes feeding a STB and HDMI downstream of the STB to the TV. This doesn't even include things like BD players, AVRs, streaming boxes, etc.

2. That's if you want a simple STB at each TV. If you want an HDPVR like the 630, you need two coaxes to the HDPVR on Shaw Direct. Other service providers typically function with a single coax feed to the STB

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/11-s...ml#post2549754
2015-10-22 02:49 PM
starchoice
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Originally Posted by dukie View Post
Hey folks.
I am looking on getting a shaw direct account for my new house build.
thinking of the hd pvr unit. But my question is:
can I split the coax out from the back of the reciever to two tvs in my rec room.
I have the drywall done and have tvs on each end of the room.
Builder has only coax in the wall.
Any ideas?
You would get the same channel on both TVs.

You should have the main coax at the electrical box. Best to get a multi-switch to split the coax there and get a receiver for each TV.
2015-10-22 02:27 PM
57 Downstream of a STB, coax is only good for an SD signal - no use for HD - builders should know that coax is mostly useless these days... If you want HD, you'll have to go with HDMI (and an HDMI splitter) or component video plus some form of audio, plus splitter. I'm not sure if the PVR you are looking at allows for simultaneous output of component video and HDMI... Please advise make/model. Also, are you going to have an AVR and other equipment, or just TVs for audio?

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/30-5...nnections.html

Since most people don't want the same signal/channel on two different TVs, you're likely better going with two STBs, one for each TV.

In addition, if you want the Shaw Direct HDPVR (like the 630), you need two coaxes to feed the signal from the dish to each PVR. These sorts of set-ups should be planned thoroughly before the building/drywall is complete. The days of a simple coax feeding a TV directly have been gone for a long time in Canada, especially for HD.
2015-10-22 01:25 PM
dukie
splitting coax out?

Hey folks.
I am looking on getting a shaw direct account for my new house build.
thinking of the hd pvr unit. But my question is:
can I split the coax out from the back of the reciever to two tvs in my rec room.
I have the drywall done and have tvs on each end of the room.
Builder has only coax in the wall.
Any ideas?

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