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2019-12-19 06:41 PM
rookie8155 Thanks for your feedback. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with virtual Dolby Atmos sound?
2019-12-18 08:18 AM
dm_4u First let me say that most higher end Yamaha Receivers have had "height" speaker terminals for some time before Dolby Atmos...they are called Presence.

I find Yamaha Presence far superior to Dolby Atmos...although I do not have ceiling speakers...the speakers I use for Atmos are on top of my towers facing upwards.

The sound is ok...but nothing fabulous...however for things like helicopters going overhead...I much prefer the Yamaha Presence.

The speakers in both systems are high end and so are the receivers.

Hope this helps.
2019-12-12 07:53 PM
rookie8155 These days all entry level or even mid range AV receivers are coming out with Dolby Atmos Height virtualization feature where they are using rear surround speakers as virtual height effects with 7.2 speaker outputs. Only 9.2 receiver will have dedicated height surround out put option. So I was wondering how is this virtual height Dolby Atmos performace? Is it really good and you don't need actual Atmos speakers. I will appreciate your feedback.
2019-02-28 04:12 PM
buckycat I think Atmos on Netflix is only available on Apple TV, Xbox one a few newer TVs.
2019-02-28 04:04 PM
Chris Ross Netflix does have Dolby Atmos on certain titles -

The trick is to have the right combination of gear to enable it. Apple 4K does for example (paired with a Dolby Atmos receiver)

But if you are getting your Netflix through Bell Fibe 4K PVR - I don’t believe they support it.
2019-02-28 03:35 PM
Danster Doubt you'll ever see ATMOS on Netflix, Bell PVR's are only 5.1 if I am not mistaken and as for your Vizio TV, you would have to check the specs for that model on their website.
2019-02-27 03:10 PM
Chris Ross
Bell 4K PVR & Atmos?

Hi, I have a Bell Whole Home 4K PVR, a Vizio 2018 M Series TV and an Onkyo 575 (Atmos Enabled) AV Receiver. So far I haven’t been able to get Dolby Atmos on Netflix on either the Netflix app on Bell or on the Netflix app on the TV. I know my system is capable as I played an Atmos demo video from a USB Drive and it played perfectly and the AVR display detected Dolby Atmos. However when I try and get Atmos through the app on either the Bell PVR or the TV app - no luck. Only standard 5.1. Does the Bell PVR have Atmos? Does anyone know if the Vizio TV can handle Atmos? Thanks for any help!
2018-11-29 10:02 PM
Danster If you can get a hold of the ATMOS Demo disk, the 747 take off is pretty spectacular. I also have butt kickers in my theatre so it really adds to the punch. 3D movies at my house are pretty good! LOL
2018-11-26 10:02 AM
lunear The Atmos speakers are too expensive, so I just used the two rear surround speakers of klipsch Quintet III as upfiring speakers on top of the two main speakers. Klipsch Quintet III speakers are small but powerful, and they have base and can be tilted up. Now my system sounds much better. I played several BD movies with Atmos and DTS-X soundtracks. I can tell there is huge difference than my previous 7.1 system. Before I could tell the sound was from which speaker. But now I feel immersed in the sound field. The base is solid and the movement of sound is so clear. That's really amazing!
2018-11-18 03:13 PM
HD03 With either the 7.1 or the 5.1.2 setup you only have 7 channels driven from the amp, and that means if you are adding 2 ceiling speakers or 2 upfiring speakers you need to drop 2 speakers from the 7.1 setup.
A traditional 5.1 setup with 2 Atmos speakers is likely the best way to go.
Your receiver will have a 'height' option for speaker outputs and that is what you will use for wiring the two new Atmos speakers whether they are ceiling mounts or upfiring.
2018-11-08 11:35 PM
57 @lunear , I've moved your post to this existing, albeit older, thread on the topic. Many of the questions you have were discussed here and I'm sure someone will have additional comments for you.
2018-11-08 01:26 PM
Questions about upgrade to Dolby Atmos system

I just ordered a new receiver which supports Dolby Atmos and DTS:X both. But I have some questions while the receiver is still on the way.

Currently I have 7.1 system. But new receiver supports Atmos 5.1.2, which means if I want to use Atmos, the two rear surround speakers will become useless. Do I need to buy Atmos speakers, or can I use the two rear speakers as Atmos speakers? Atmos speakers are so expensive. And my main speakers are JBL HLS820 which are tilted. The front side of speaker is little higher than the back. Even if I buy Atmos speakers and place them on top of the two main speakers, will it still sound great?

If I can use the current two rear surround speakers, but I have to mount them on the ceiling, right? I live at a rented apartment without tools to dig holes in ceiling. Is there any other way to do so? My surround speakers and center speakers are Klipsch Quiette III set.

2016-12-23 05:24 PM
Blackloz Atmos is totally awesome. The first thing I look for now when I buy my BD's(4K & 2K) is if it has an Atmos soundtrack. It's gotten to the point that I now wait to watch Game Of Thrones on BD now as all the releases are Atmos encoded and what is not available in True Atmos I always use DSU.
2016-12-22 10:04 PM
Danster The best part of that demo disc is the audio of a 747 at takeoff. I also have butt kickers and in ATMOS plus the butt kickers, the only thing missing is the smell of the kerosene as it flies above us!!!
2016-12-22 01:14 PM
Abandoned the Onkyo SKH-410 speakers & upgraded !!!!

Hey folks,

It's been a while since I last posted, and since I just completed an upgrade I thought I'd fill y'all in.

Remember, I'm dealing with a 7' 2" ceiling. I was never able to get the Onkyo SKH-410 speakers to give me that sound above me as I was expecting, unless I moved them closer to me, to the point they were in the way. Only then did I hear something, but ... meh. Angling them caused me to hear directly from the speakers. I tried countless combinations of location, angle, height, etc. I finally gave up and put them on a couple of shelves I built hidden in front of the ceiling bulkhead we sit below, still firing upwards. Finally I got the sound to come from above. It was better but still just ok. So it stayed that way (7.2.2) for quite a while using the original Denon AVR-X4100W, AudioSource AMP 100 amp and 2 Onkyo 410s. However, once I got a nibble of what sound above me sounded like, I knew I wanted more.

Note that I original bought 4 of the Onkyo SKH-410 speakers, but since I started with a 7.1 base, I could only use 2 with the X4100W. I sold one of the pairs to a chum at work. He's got a 9 foot ceiling and realy likes the speakers, so they're not junk. They do work. Just not in my setup.

Fast forward to just a few weeks ago. I replaced the Denon X4100W avr with their new X6300H. Out went the AMP 100 aux amp and Onkyo 410s. The Atmos enabled speakers were replaced by 4 Polk Audio Atrium 4 outdoor speakers that I mounted to the ceiling, ~45° in front and behind the mlp, in line with the front main towers and rear surrounds, angled in and down towards the mlp. The new X6300H amp can drive everything in a 7.2.4 arrangement.

I also struggled to find a decent Atmos demo file anywhere. I tried downloading from various sources, but the files were either crap, corrupted, or took a lifetime to download. I gave up/in, went to eBay and bought the read deal 2015 Atmos demo disc. Ya, I paid for it, but now I have what I want without any more headaches. It realy does showcase the tech very well.

Let's get the inevitable question out of the way. "How does the tonal quality of the Atrium 4s compare to the Andrew Jones speakers?" Before removing the original avr, I set them up as zone 2 speakers with the subs off. Yes, I could hear a difference between them and either the Andrew Jones towers or bookshelves, but I wasn't expecting them to sound the same. Once I had all the new gear set up and audyssey calibration done, for what they are there for and the sounds that come out of them, I do not notice a difference. Sounds travel from front to back or side to side traversing above me without any noticeable difference in sound quality. The sound of rain, wind and such is now clearly heard from not just directly above, but from all around the space above me. I have yet to make it all the way through the demo blu-ray.

So, how's it all sound? Unfriken' believable !!!! The sound is beyond what I was hoping for. When "they" call Atmos immersive they're not kidding. This is really cool.

Until next time, enjoy whatever you call this part of the year. I'll just say Merry Christmas & happy new year to everyone. Play hard, but play safe. Keep your stick on the ice.
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