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2015-10-10 01:10 PM
Nighthawk 1 Does anyone know if Java security issues still persist? I have it disabled on my PC at home. However I do need it to run for telework purposes. Is it safe now to enable and does using Explorer or Firefox (my default) make a difference?
2015-03-02 08:20 AM
Jake We are still using Java 6 Update 45 here. Our workstations are administered remotely so we are unable to fix that.

We get weekly lectures on internet security yet they are powerless to block the multiple phishing emails/day we receive.

Sigh.
2015-02-22 02:30 AM
Rogue_Simulant When I installed Azureus I started playing Freecol.
When I uninstalled Vuze I kept on playing Freecol.
2014-08-21 12:34 PM
j0dest3r
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My work computer which I have little control over has an older version of IE as the default browser and Java 6 Update 45. Which I am pretty sure is a VERY bad idea.

Oh and we still have lots of XP machines running.
Sounds like you guys are ripe for a cyber intrusion. IIRC JAVA 6 is EOL but there was a final patch issued for organizations that still required JAVA 6. Update 51 I think but it was designed to buy time to get your apps over to JAVA 7.
2014-08-21 12:26 PM
j0dest3r
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Java and IE. From a security viewpoint, that seems like a bad combination.
Where you go and what you do with that combo is what puts you at risk. It's used for very specific purposes. The Firefox with no JAVA enabled is used for general use.
2014-08-21 08:47 AM
Jake My work computer which I have little control over has an older version of IE as the default browser and Java 6 Update 45. Which I am pretty sure is a VERY bad idea.

Oh and we still have lots of XP machines running.
2014-08-20 10:01 PM
ExDilbert Java and IE. From a security viewpoint, that seems like a bad combination.
2014-08-20 06:48 PM
classicsat I don't have the JRE installed on any of the Windows PCs I use, if that is what you mean.
2014-08-20 04:30 PM
j0dest3r Or just keep on top of your updates and have the plugin work in a second browser and not in the one you use daily. For me Firefox has the plugin disabled but enabled for IE.
2014-08-15 11:06 PM
four If you need Java for just 1-2 tasks that are not the primary ones on your PC, run it on a Windows VM.
An average computer today is powerful enough to run a 2GB RAM/20GB HHD Windows VM under VMware Player (free) when it is needed.
Easy backup/rollback. No danger to your main system if Java screws something up inside your VM...
2014-08-15 06:55 PM
ExDilbert Some earlier versions of Java did not update properly so it is very possible that an insecure Java component is still on any system. Newer updates provide an option to check for older versions. It's a good idea to use it, or use something like Secunia PSI that will detect insecure files on a system. Java updates are such a PITA that there are probably lots of insecure installations.
2014-08-15 12:43 PM
j0dest3r Kids play Minecraft so Java is everywhere for me unfortunately.
2014-08-15 11:17 AM
Jake
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just because you don't have the JRE / JDK installed it doesn't necessarily mean you are Java free.
No but fewer loaded guns laying around.

I ran the link audacity posted (on a PC with java that is not mine) and Chrome blocked it for being out of date. At least there is the option of enabling it or not.

I just noticed this PC has a 32 bit and 64 bit version of java installed. And it is 6 not 7.

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We have detected you may be viewing this page in a 32-bit browser. If you use 32-bit and 64-bit browsers interchangeably, you will need to install both 32-bit and 64-bit Java in order to have the Java plug-in for both browsers.
2014-08-15 10:34 AM
audacity If you go to this web page and it complains that you don't have Java installed, it should make you feel better. At least, from a security perspective.

If an application you have buried some JRE in the depths of your system, but it isn't accessible in the normal directories, and it isn't in your path (">java -version" doesn't work) then the primary downsides of having Java on your computer are mitigated.

If malware cannot find your Java installation, then it can't exploit it.
2014-08-15 10:23 AM
notsure Like I said above, just because you don't have the JRE / JDK installed it doesn't necessarily mean you are Java free.

But hey, if it makes you feel better all the more power to you.
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