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2012-05-07 10:17 PM
OTAJuncqui Here's some old news:
Making Windows Media Center available in Windows 8

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2...windows-8.aspx

What I like is how MS has taken the complex and confusing aspects of a media center application and made it so simple and inexpensive.
2012-05-06 10:00 AM
j0dest3r They've done that with Server 8. The default install is core with no GUI. If you love powershell scripts, there you go! ;-)
2012-05-06 12:06 AM
madhi19 I always said Microsoft should strip the crap out of Windows to make it a barebone OS and offer module for micro-transaction. Customers would get a more snappier OS and likely a more solid and secure ecosystem. You give away the razor then you sell the blades!
2012-05-04 09:15 PM
OTAJuncqui I have a Hauppage MCE remote and using my EventGhost profile for NPVR the "clear" and "enter" buttons are mapped to mouse left and right clicks.
This is useful in NPVR because a right mouse click brings up the "settings" menu(even while watching TV or video). I can select audio or subtitle stream or go into full settings menu and do a channel scan or tweak a decoder. There are also the rare ocassions when I may want to open windows explorer or control panel or navigate my desktop. Granted it's rare but I can do it.
2012-05-04 07:59 PM
Wayne
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Originally Posted by OTAJuncqui View Post
Or just move the bloody mouse and left or right click
Who uses a mouse in a HT setup? I have a wireless mouse but it is a last resort or when working in the regular Win UI.
2012-05-04 05:44 PM
OTAJuncqui Alot of people simply rely on apps like EventGhost to control everything(VLC,NPVR,WMC,MP,Explorer and the like).
If you can use a key to do it EG can "make it so".
And hence select the application specific command that suits the use regardless of the remote.
Or just move the bloody mouse and left or right click
2012-05-04 04:14 PM
audacity NineBall,

That remote to keyboard command map is a little misleading because it implies that, say, the "ok" button (VK_RETURN) is the equivelent to the Enter key. While WMC does accept both the keyboard enter key and VK_RETURN key on the remote as the same command (to "drill down" on the selected menu item), that doesn't mean that from the applications perspective that the input is the same.

In other words, if you load Microsoft Word and try a lot of those WMC remote keys, you won't get "enter" or "arrow up", etc. WMC is just very accepting of different many different possible inputs.

For instance, you can decrement the channel number by pressing:
Channel Down (remote)
MINUS SIGN (-)
CTRL+MINUS SIGN
PAGE DOWN

All those inputs do the same thing, but that doesn't mean that the remote key will necessarily cause you to see a "-" character appear in Microsoft Word.

I should note that I've discovered an amazing lack of consistency between WMC remotes that I have used over time. Some remotes will send a APPCOMMAND_MEDIA_CHANNEL_DOWN message to Media Center while others are actually just mapping to the PageDown key.
2012-05-04 03:51 PM
NineBall For how Windows remote devices map to keyboard commands: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/libr.../bb417079.aspx

To customize it: http://www.eventghost.org/
2012-05-04 03:38 PM
audacity Well, the answer is that it actually does work - if your remote control has keys that map to keyboard arrow keys and "enter".

Many WMC remote keys are meaningless to Windows (the OS) so they won't work in Metro. When companies make remote controls going forward they can just make these remotes appear as a keyboard (to the OS) and map whatever keys or key combinations that Metro will respond to.

Why don't we see this yet? Because Metro isn't out yet - but there are hardware/software product combinations that I'm pretty sure you could get it to work today without any "products from the future".
2012-05-04 03:32 PM
j0dest3r If it's so easy, why doesn't it already work! ;-)
2012-05-04 03:15 PM
audacity It would be very easy to design a Metro-friendly remote control.
2012-05-04 02:35 PM
j0dest3r Ahh crap! You just busted my bubble LOL!

Sounds more like they are going to include MC just to shut us up and hope that metro apps end up taking its place somehow. Grr!!

Does the metro screen work as well with a remote control like MC does? Doubt it!
2012-05-04 01:43 PM
NineBall She unfortunately misread the blog. In the 2nd paragraph from her article that j0dest3r quoted, the original blog post states that about Windows 8, not Media Center. Media Center is simply being kept on life support and the blog post author clarified in the comments that the marginal cost for the Media Center Pack for Windows 8 Pro may be in the single digits (the Pro Pack will likely cost much more).

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2...windows-8.aspx
Quote:
In this post we wanted to update you on Media Center and Windows 8, specifically how we will make sure Windows 8 fully supports the capabilities of Media Center as it is in Windows 7. We took the feedback about maintaining the functionality very seriously, and we clearly understood what we’ve heard many of you saying around the value of Media Center for movies, Internet TV, broadcast TV, optical media, music, photos, and all the other scenarios it covers today. Many said in comments and email to us, that so long as the feature is available somehow it is fine. This post is how we will deliver on that and continue to support Media Center for another product lifecycle
(bolding is my emphasis)

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marginal is small, honest, and we just haven't determined the final prices yet based on ongoing work but we are aiming for single digit dollars but we don't control the truly marginal costs
2012-05-03 10:55 PM
audacity I'm hoping that it gets split into a bunch of little metro apps so that 3rd parties can add their own app to the mix by "just writing a Metro app" rather than having to use some oddball API like they currently have with Media Center.

The statement j0dert3r quoted suggested that this may indeed happen.

I also think that if you're using Win8 as your PVR that Storage Spaces will be awesome.
2012-05-03 09:56 PM
j0dest3r
More news on Win8 Media Centre

Looks like they are finally going to spend some time updating it

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57...automatically/

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Users interested in Media Center have a couple of choices. If they buy Windows 8 Pro, they can they purchase Windows 8 Media Center Pack to have full integration with DVD playback, broadcast TV recording and playback, and VOB file playback. If they have just Windows 8, they can buy the Windows 8 Pro Pack to get Media Center. Microsoft has yet to announce the cost for Windows 8 and the upgrades; it did say, however, that the Media Center Pack pricing will be "in line with marginal costs."

The separate pricing issue aside, Microsoft also said today that with the Media Center it is focusing on a "comprehensive video and audio platform for developers to build engaging and differentiated apps." The apps will use decoders specialized for system reliability, battery life, and performance. In addition, playback will include YouTube video, Netflix video, Amazon audio/video, Hulu video, MP4 video, and more.
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