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2018-07-03 08:32 AM
NipissingOTA Update : CHCH is back on the air in North Bay.
2018-07-02 09:33 AM
CHCH signal outage?

I'm only getting static on the OTA CHCH channel here in North Bay. Anyone else running into the same issue?

CHCH-TV-6 North Bay 32 (UHF) N/A 5 kW 116 m 46°18′10″N 79°24′39″W
2016-09-27 08:41 PM
Global down in Winnipeg from Sept 24 to 27

I guess I should have posted this earlier as I see today that Global (40.1) is back.

I heard reports that it was down on Saturday, can't remember when I first noticed but today I see it's back up.

Here is the news from the source:
Global News Winnipeg antenna temporarily down, technicians fixing problem - Winnipeg |
2014-08-27 07:53 PM
ds514 I emailed City Saskatchewan to ask why they didn't have an OTA broadcast and the person said that they didn't know, but there are no plans to set one up at the moment. I told the person that I think that there would be lots of support for it, and was told that my comments would be passed on.

All in all, I doubt anything will be done unless the CRTC forces them to start broadcasting OTA, but you never know. If anyone else wants to email them, the contact info can be found on their website.
2014-08-18 11:40 PM
painter Just got that information from wikipedia, and that is what it states that their license does not include an OTA signal. Not having cable or satellite I was wondering the same thing and that is what I found. Emailed CITY Saskatchewan to find out if they were going to offer an OTA signal like other local channels and never did get a reply.
2014-08-18 11:27 PM
ds514 Interesting. Would that be the CRTC holding that up, or would city just not be that interested in broadcasting OTA? It's strange since the channel used to be a public broadcaster. Like stampeder, I'm mainly interested in more OTA hockey.
2014-08-18 11:18 PM
painter CITY Saskatchewan does not have a license to cast an OTA signal in Saskatchewan. Their feed must be by cable or satellite.
2014-08-18 09:47 PM
stampeder That's on topic. I'm curious to know what is going on too, given that City will be carrying NHL hockey.

2014-08-18 06:12 PM
City Saskatchewan OTA?

This may not be the right thread for this, but does anyone know why City Saskatchewan doesn't broadcast OTA?
2014-06-11 02:51 PM
El Gran Chico
CRTC decision CKPR Thunder Bay

Just in ...

Route reference: Part 1 application posted on 13 March 2014

Ottawa, 11 June 2014

Thunder Bay Electronics Limited
Thunder Bay, Ontario

Application 2014-0187-7
CKPR-DT Thunder Bay – Disaffiliation from the CBC English-language television network

The Commission approves an application by Thunder Bay Electronics Limited to disaffiliate the conventional television station CKPR-DT Thunder Bay from the English-language television network operated by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC).

The Commission encourages the parties to consider alternate solutions, such as multiplexing, to ensure the availability of the CBC’s service over-the-air.

Thunder Bay Electronics Limited (Thunder Bay Electronics) filed an application to disaffiliate the conventional television station CKPR-DT Thunder Bay from the English-language television network operated by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC).Footnote 1
Thunder Bay Electronics explained that it was appropriate to end its current relationship with the CBC and explore program supply arrangement opportunities with another source to enable its small-market television station to remain viable. The licensee added that it had reached a program supply agreement with such a source.

Interventions and applicant’s reply

The Commission received interventions opposing the application from individuals concerned about the loss of CBC service in their community. Some of these interveners proposed that if CKPR-DT were allowed to disaffiliate from the CBC, the licensee should continue to transmit the CBC’s signal through multicasting or a digital subchannel. The public record for this application can be found on the Commission’s website at or by using the application number provided above.
In reply, the licensee stated that it was seeking other programming sources to meet its licence requirements and remain a viable operation. It added that it would continue to offer a minimum weekly average of original local news following its disaffiliation from the CBC and noted that the CBC television network was available by other means, such as cable or satellite.

Commission’s analysis

As set out in Broadcasting Decision 2013-467, the licensee is required to broadcast at least 14 hours of local programming per week, counted in aggregate with the local programming of CHFD-DT Thunder Bay. The disaffiliation would therefore only change the network programming on the station and would not affect the amount of local programming provided to the community.
With respect to the availability of CBC programming, section 3(1)(m)(vii) of the Broadcasting Act states that the programming provided by the CBC should be made available throughout Canada by the most appropriate and efficient means and as resources become available for the purpose. In this respect, the Commission notes that although the CBC’s programming would no longer be available over-the-air in Thunder Bay following the proposed disaffiliation, it would remain available on the basic service provided by cable and satellite operators. The Commission also considers that the responsibility to provide the CBC’s services rests with the CBC, not with private broadcasters. In Broadcasting Decision 2013-263, the Commission indicated that it would not impose requirements on the CBC to establish or operate television transmitters. However, it stated that broadcasters should continue to explore opportunities such as multiplexing to ensure that Canadians have access to free over-the-air television.


In light of the above, the Commission approves the application by Thunder Bay Electronics Limited to disaffiliate the conventional television programming undertaking CKPR-DT Thunder Bay from the CBC English-language television network.
The Commission encourages Thunder Bay Electronics and the CBC to consider alternate solutions, such as multiplexing.

Secretary General
2014-05-31 11:27 PM
sparkycivic CKND-DT-2 is on the air!
I saw some RF on my spectrum analyzer last night, and after connecting the tv and fidgetting in the menus, I finally got it to scan in on physical ch 9, it shows as ch 2.1 once scanned in.
This is from the Brandon Hills, just South of Brandon on fairly high ground using a ham 6m dipole element I had lying around, hardly ideal for this, but It's only for the purposes of playing around with finding this transmitter. I already have the station in HD on my satellite tv service anyway, so it's not like performance is important at all.

I saw about -72dBm for the pilot and -82dBm or so for the rest of the signal on my spectrum analyzer, whose displayed noise floor was -101dBm.
2014-05-14 12:43 PM
Andysradio According to Shaw's web site (I am going by memory here) the flip for Minnedosa will take place the week of June 9
2014-05-13 10:47 PM
sparkycivic Global has installed their DTV antenna at Basswood Manitoba last week. Still no RF detected at my house on RF CH9 using spectrum analyzer... I'll update here when something changes. They posted a video taken by one of the riggers riding the basket up the tower and passing the new antenna, but I lost the link for it.
2014-03-20 03:13 PM
tvlurker I think Dougall Media asks for this every time their affiliation agreement with the CBC comes up. I'm pretty sure they did it last time, too. As they admit, it's a negotiating ploy.
It would be interesting to see if CTV would want them back as an affiliate. It's more likely that Rogers would take them on as a CITY affiliate.

When I first saw the application, I thought maybe they were asking for more power on channel 2. Does anyone in Thunder Bay actually receive them over the air?
2014-03-20 12:40 PM
Robbers Bhell
CKPR Thunder Bay wants to de-affiliate from CBC

This has been filed with the CRTC (2014-0187-7). Public comments open until Monday April 14, 8pm EDT


This letter is intended to serve as an application by Thunder Bay Electronics Limited (“CKPR-DT”) for disaffiliation with the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (“CBC”) effective August 31, 2014.

1. CKPR-DT has been a CBC affiliate for over 60 years. The station renewed its affiliation agreement with the CBC September 1, 2011.

2. Under the terms of the current CBC affiliation agreement CKPR-DT found it appropriate to assess its current relationship and explore the opportunity to assess a program supply arrangement from another source, which CKPR-DT sees as the most likely opportunity to enable this small market television station to continue to remain viable.

3. The CBC has been served with the disaffiliation notice as specified under the terms of the current agreement.

4. It is intended that from the date of disaffiliation, CKPR-DT will continue operation as a local independent station maintaining its existing level of local service while sourcing its non-local programming.

5. While CKPR-DT remains challenged in operating in a secondary television market it has determined that it can operate successfully and therefore, the disaffiliation from CBC is being sought so that CKPR-DT can move forward and be an economically viable operation.

6. In essence, Thunder Bay Electronics Limited (“CKPR-DT”) seeks the support and approval of the Commission to preserve the ability for CKPR-DT to maintain its viability serving the local community.

7. The Commission has long endorsed the eventual replacement of all CBC Affiliates to extend the full CBC service to all communities. In February 1987, the Commission wrote:

“[Objective] Extend full service of both English and French television networks to all communities. In achieving this objective, the Commission encourages the eventual replacement of all {CBC} affiliates.” [Decision CRTC 87-140].

Further, the Commission again wrote:

“The long-term objective was for the Corporation to extend full service of both the English – and French – language television networks to all communities. In achieving this objective, the Commission encourages the eventual replacement of all affiliates by the CBC.” [Decision CRTC 94-437].

8. There is a pressing time frame to complete this transition and we respectfully request that the Commission expedite this process to the extent possible to ensure the changeover effective August 31, 2014. This will allow for the orderly development of information to effectively advise the community being served, to meet fall launch time frames and to ensure an effective marketing campaign to allow for revenue development with respect to the changed programming.

Thunder Bay Electronics Limited recognizes that the Commission has expressed strong support for the efforts of small market television broadcasters to be creative and diligent in their efforts to maintain a small market television presence in as many Canadian communities as possible.

9. Thunder Bay Electronics Limited seeks the deletion of CKPR-DT’s condition of license No. 1 which reads:

“The Licensee shall operate this broadcasting undertaking as an affiliate of the English-language television network operated by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation”.
Broadcast Decision CRTC – 2004 – 387.

10. Upon disaffiliation, it is CKPR’s intention to operate CKPR-DT as an independent local station. For the sake of clarity Thunder Bay Electronics Limited would continue to commit to broadcast a minimum weekly average
of original, local news on CKPR-DT, as set forth in broadcasting Decision CRTC 2013-467 and will meet all other conditions of license as set out in Broadcast Decision CRTC 2013 – 467.

11. Thunder Bay Electronics Limited has verbally and by copy of this application advised (CBC) the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation of its intention to disaffiliate. CKPR-DT has not at present, entered into formal discussions with an alternative carrier and wishes to maintain the option of extending the carriage of CBC programming until August 31, 2016 if the need to extend so arises during alternative program contractual discussions.

By the removal of condition No. 1 and 2 of CKPR-DT’s license agreement, CKPR-DT will be in a more flexible position to operate as an independent local English language broadcast operation and to negotiate a more financially viable program carriage agreement.

12. If you have any questions regarding the foregoing or if we can provide any further information which would be of value to the Commission, please do not hesitate to contact the writer.
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