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2009-06-19 07:45 PM
GusX
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New features such as tethering and Picture/Video Messaging (MMS) will be available to Rogers customers as of June 19th, 2009 when you upgrade to iPhone O.S. 3.0.



Tethering is the use of your phone as a wireless modem to connect to the Internet from your computer. For a limited time, if you subscribe to a data plan which includes at least 1GB of data transmission between June 8, 2009 and December 31, 2009, and if you have a compatible device, you may use tethering as part of the volume of data included in your plan at no additional charge. Tethering cannot be used with data plans of less than 1GB. To upgrade to a 1GB iPhone data plan go to www.rogers.com and sign into your account or call 1-888-ROGERS1

On the subject of tethering with Rogers and the 3.0 OS I found this on the rogers website.

http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wi...09-_-tethering
2009-06-18 03:50 PM
Ruthless82 Sorry I was a bit off in my description of things. Blackberry push is a proprietary technology so any other method is only trying to mimic their push feature. Activesync doesn't actually fetch in small intervals but keeps a connection open between the server and the device in certain intervals to allow the server to tell the device there is a notification, then the device will go out and pull in that message.

In a BB world the server doesn't tell the device it has a message it just gives the message to the device. The BB is passive in the process. The iPhone actually pulls down the email after receiving notification of a message.

In the end the difference is probably only seconds, but the BB method is the only real true push out there, activesync just gets incredibly close to true push.

This is why turning push on with the iPhone reduces battery life and has no impact on a blackberry.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/905013

I can only assume mobileme also operates in the same fashion as activesync but I could be wrong.

I suppose this is kind of off topic though so I appologize.
2009-06-18 12:02 PM
NeilN Sorry, but you'll need to provide an authoritative link that states Apple's push behaves this way before I come close to believing your statement as it runs counter to everything I've read (as of OS 2.1). Setting fetch "to very small intervals" would drain the battery significantly faster than push. Keep in mind response time also depends on how fast the server pushes the emails out.

Sample link: http://www.cnet.com.au/apple-iphone-...-339286566.htm
2009-06-18 11:42 AM
AMAKY Agree with your comments Ruthless82,

I have done intensive testing yesterday several times by sending emails to my paid yahoo account, free yahoo and gmail, I would get a notification on both yahoo accounts in less than a minute,sometimes instantly. On gmail it varied between from few secs to 2-3 mins.

So, the "push" seems to be getting better now with 3.0
2009-06-18 10:50 AM
Bruce Fan I see that the battery percentage icon is only on the 3Gs and not the 3G with the 3.0 firmware. Bummer.

One question - has anyone been able to now get music through their bluetooth? I thought the new firmware would allow this.

To that point -- I was hoping the new bluetooth support would allow me to hear the e-mail alert/tone via my bluetooth but it doesn't. Does anyone know if that is even possible with the iPhone?

THANKS!
2009-06-18 10:39 AM
Ruthless82
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Um, yes it definitely does if your email server (MS Exchange) supports it. I sometimes have my iPhone set to Push when I'm working on my desktop. In this situation, the iPhone *always* gets any email sent to my Exchange account before it appears in Outlook. It's the same behaviour I saw when I had a Blackberry.
Technically the "push" service from Apple is not true push in the way that it is for the Blackberry. Essentially it is fetch set to very small intervals (hence why the push service uses the battery faster). Real push service is when the email server actually pushes the email onto the phone, rather than the phone fetching it from the server. While Apple has done a good job mimicing the push service it is still just fetching.

So far I am very happy with the 3.0 update. The landscape support for mail and messaging is fantastic. Now I'm just waiting to see what 3rd party apps are going to take advanatage of the "push" notification service.
2009-06-18 08:14 AM
ajhaze
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Originally Posted by cooper83 View Post
Did you have to call them to activate it?
I tried setting up tethering after first installing 3.0 (with my phone unplugged from computer) and it said to call Rogers. Later I tried it with my phone plugged into my computer and it worked. I have been using it via bluetooth now.
2009-06-17 11:34 PM
cooper83
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And tethering is working through Rogers!
Did you have to call them to activate it?
2009-06-17 11:03 PM
ajhaze
WooHoo

Push has worked for me for since I got an iPhone last year - using Mobileme for personal use and Exchange at work. And tethering is working through Rogers!
2009-06-17 10:28 PM
NeilN Um, yes it definitely does if your email server (MS Exchange) supports it. I sometimes have my iPhone set to Push when I'm working on my desktop. In this situation, the iPhone *always* gets any email sent to my Exchange account before it appears in Outlook. It's the same behaviour I saw when I had a Blackberry.
2009-06-17 09:26 PM
stationg
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Originally Posted by NeilN View Post
Push email works fine on the iPhone 3G. Been using it since I first got an iPhone.
I consider push email when you get the email right away. No waiting. Like the Blackberry. The iphone doesn't do that.
2009-06-17 09:19 PM
NeilN Push email works fine on the iPhone 3G. Been using it since I first got an iPhone.
2009-06-17 08:14 PM
AMAKY hmmm now I am confused if push email and push notification are two different things ?

even if it is push notification, it never worked, never got an email notification alert/sound. When kept it on fetch mode 15 mins only then I would get the email alert.

Was on a conference call few months back with Apple and Rogers as previously each one was blaming the other party, so I said, let's just get on to a conference call together. Then, they said they will do some testing. No one got back to me with satisfactory response.

So, real push email/notification has so far been the blackberry for me.
2009-06-17 07:52 PM
stationg
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Originally Posted by AMAKY View Post
I had it installed and working at around 1:20pm today ET. I am on ROGERS and everything went smooth.

The only message that was a "NEW" for me was related to update carrier settings, which I accepted and downloaded.

Over all I do notice improved performance after the upgrade. Will test the "push" email feature on my both paid and regular yahoo email accounts as previously it never worked. Had keep it on fetch mode.
If your thinking "push" email there is no such feature. I thought push notification meant push email but their different things.
2009-06-17 07:45 PM
AMAKY I had it installed and working at around 1:20pm today ET. I am on ROGERS and everything went smooth.

The only message that was a "NEW" for me was related to update carrier settings, which I accepted and downloaded.

Over all I do notice improved performance after the upgrade. Will test the "push" email feature on my both paid and regular yahoo email accounts as previously it never worked. Had keep it on fetch mode.
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