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2009-04-08 01:07 PM
fisherjoe
NAS box

I just bought a Thecus N4100 Pro with built in Media Server it works with my Wii and you can plug in a wireless USB to make it wireless or use the wired connection
I also bought an EVA 700 by Netgear from Ebay and it works with that to my TV wirelessly play music,Video and Pictures
2008-04-24 02:30 AM
JohnnyCanuck Didn't really consider the HP products at all. Looks like some good products, but I actually went with the Synology DS107 (the 'e' version which doesn't have ADS and a little less memory).

I liked the onboard UPnP server works with the PS3 without having to load Twonky (although Twonky does have a distribution for it). I especially like the support for 3 external USB drives and an eSATA drive. Leaves me with a lot of storage options. I added a 500GB SATA2 Western Digital Hard Drive to the purchase.

Just setting it up this evening. I'll probably post up some sort of review/wrap-up of my experience with it.
2008-04-23 10:06 PM
sansp00 Have you looked at the new (2nd) generation mediavault from HP ?
It has twonky also ... Support usb external drive (unlimited size expansion). I have but good thing about it.
If I had the money, I would change my first gen for a second gen without hesitation (even the first gen was good, the 2nd is just ... better).
Patrick S.
2008-04-21 08:12 PM
JohnnyCanuck Thought I'd ask some more questions. I am currently running a Linksys NSLU2 with a 500 GB USB drive. Most of my network is gigabit and the Slug is just that .. a slug. So, I am looking to upgrade and am considering three options.

The need is primarily to serve music to two PC's and a PS3. Some video serving as well, but not as important.

I like the D-Link DNS-323, but would like to be able to use an external USB drive since I already have a 500GB one, so I think this is the least preferred option.

I've narrowed it down to the Buffalo Linkstation Pro or the QNAP TS-109. Both support TwonkyMedia as a local install which is my preferred media server. The QNAP solution will be more expensive, but has a little more flexibility in that it also supports eSATA external hard drives.

Just wondering if anyone has any feedback about either of these, or any other thoughts?
2008-04-21 09:12 AM
heybirder
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It sounds to me like you should consider Windows Home Server. It's a headless pc so you have more control of it than a standard NAS, and install software on it as well. It is able to stream using windows media connect, or you could install orb, tversity etc. on it. I have mine on a wired gig network to my ps3 and it streams very nicely (although not all formats since I'm using windows media connect ATM).

It also can backup your machines each evening and allow remote access to your home network. There are many add-ins for it as well. I think it will be a great product once it matures a bit.

I've been running it since oct and it has worked out great for me.

Just be warned there is still an outstanding bug with the WHS software that can cause file corruption if you 'edit files in place' on the server. I've never experienced the corruption myself but I am cautious. The fix is supposed to be released in June along with the 'power pack'.
The Squeezebox software, SqueezeCenter, is fully supported on WHS. As well, TVersity can be installed on WHS. There are plenty of add-ons to WHS that make it a compelling choice for a home storage box over a tradition NAS. I think it's something worth looking at.
2008-04-21 06:05 AM
I_Want_My_HDTV
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1) How much of a load would this put on the NAS? Would I need something with a lot of memory and processing power, or should any decent NAS be able to handle this?

2) Would a RAID setup be of any benefit? (I would be maintaining a separate backup regardless of whether I'm running RAID.)

3) Should I run two separate NAS boxes for music and video?
1) Processing power and RAM not big issues for NAS. Relatively low power CPUs can be used.

2) RAID5 is beneficial due to it's ability to recover from a drive failure. (RAID bigots feel free to jump in here but modern RAID5 implementations are easy to set up and maintain.)

3) Two boxes will provide no significant benefit but will increase costs. Expandability is a key issue, something not provided by many consumer solutions that max out at 2 or 4 drives.

I use an older PC with a 1.7GHz Centrino and 1 GB RAM running Linux and Samba. It is configured for low power consumption and expandability. It is currently at 8x500GB drives in a RAID5 configuration and could be expanded to 12 or even 16 drives with the right case. It also has automatic drive failure recovery due to one drive being configured as a spare. However, I don't recommend that as an option for someone who is not somewhat fluent in building PCs and using Linux.

The previously mentioned D-Link DNS323 is a good, low priced option. 750GB drives are currently a good option due to recent price drops. RAID1 will provide data protection and RAID0 maximum storage capacity. The Drobo is more flexible and can hold up to four drives. It is much more costly though.

Windows Home Server is another option but it is not without issues. File corruption and cost are significant drawbacks.
2008-04-17 11:59 AM
Danno100 Here are my 2 cents worth.

I used to have 2 NSLU2's and ran Twonky on them. However, the drives did not use NTSF and this was a problem if I wanted to move them. In the end, I ended up building a XP server.

Why? Well, even with an old MOBO and XP, it works and is reliable. I put 10 drives in my medium sized case (try that on a $1,000 NAS). I run Tversity (UPnP media software) on the server, plus mControl (X-10 lighting to turn of HT lights when a movie plays), plus ActiveHome (X-10), plus Webcam XP (server records audio/video from my front door Teledoorbell), plus X-10 dispatcher to e-mail me when there is motion or an alarm in my house.

My server "serves" three Vista Ultimate HTPC's, a Wii, four regular XP PC's, and 2 DSM-320's.

In the end, I found my server needed to do more than just serve up photo/movies/music. You can't do all the above with a simple NAS.

Yes, I spend more on power consumption, but in the end, I have a reliable multi-function server with 2.5 TB of storage backed up nightly, all at a cost less than a NAS.
2008-04-17 11:02 AM
hedge It sounds to me like you should consider Windows Home Server. It's a headless pc so you have more control of it than a standard NAS, and install software on it as well. It is able to stream using windows media connect, or you could install orb, tversity etc. on it. I have mine on a wired gig network to my ps3 and it streams very nicely (although not all formats since I'm using windows media connect ATM).

It also can backup your machines each evening and allow remote access to your home network. There are many add-ins for it as well. I think it will be a great product once it matures a bit.

I've been running it since oct and it has worked out great for me.

Just be warned there is still an outstanding bug with the WHS software that can cause file corruption if you 'edit files in place' on the server. I've never experienced the corruption myself but I am cautious. The fix is supposed to be released in June along with the 'power pack'.
2008-04-17 12:22 AM
dufferdan Hugh et al...

My experience:

1.Initially, my PS3 would see music on the NAS (D-Link 323) and play, and would see video files but NOT play those. I have upgraded the firmware on the D-Link 323 AND I believe the PS3 software/OS/firmware went through an automatic upgrade at some point and VOILA! I can now play video directly from my DNS 323. I have an HD iMovie I saved to the D-Link (once you figure out the file formats, bit rates etc) and it plays on my PS3 to 58" Panny plasma in HD glory.

Thrilled

HOWEVER

2. I cannot get it to play to my Roku Soundbridge. I tried installing Twonkyserver software on the NAS and I think I got half pregnant with it. The ROKU sees the music occasionally, but only about a quarter or fewer of my music files. I threw out Twonky and am trying to figure out how to install Firefly. I have ZERO experience with UNIX or LINUX and Telnet or any such and can really not even get to first base.

I have followed the Firefly and Twonky instructions, as well as various message boards to no avail. Once I solve this, I am set. I will then go forward and replace all my 256 kbps music files with Apple Lossless files.

Anyway, thought the PS3 HD video news might have helped.

BTW, I used Quicktime pro to convert the video to an acceptable format once the iMovie was finished.
2008-03-10 05:25 PM
bluepine Hugh: I looked at upgrading the hard drive in the PS3 but when the laptop is wireless, transferring files that are large can certainly take a crap load of time.

Harry: I was unaware that torrent files (movie's, video etc..) could be had in there raw format. I thought being that their torrents they would have to be compressed?

I think I'm going to look for either older pc and set up tversity and stream it directly to the ps3, if not a NAS.
2008-03-10 05:18 PM
harry325 Blue: I have a Mediagate 350HD. I download torrent files (avi, MP4, etc) directly to the 350's hard drive then play directly from there to my TV (there is usually no conversion of downloaded files unless they are ZIPped). Secondarliy, I can play from my SNLU2's network storage drive (or any open (ie. guest) network share) via the 350 to my TV.
Unfortunately the 350 does not have a network share so the XBOX would not be able to see it on the network.
2008-03-10 02:52 PM
hugh If the only thing you are using is a PS3, then why not just upgrade the hard drive in your PS3 or add an external drive (formatted in FAT32) or both. Then you wouldn't need a PC or a NAS! Regarding Torrents, I assume they would have to be unpacked first then put on your NAS but I am no expert on that.



2008-03-10 02:45 PM
bluepine I'm running TVersity right now and it works great for my PS3. The reason I was asking is because my hard drive is getting full of Movies and music and would like to have an area that has just those files and streamed to the PS3 instead of having to run my laptop (with TVersity) to stream. NAS vs old pc (as server)?

My other question: Obviously, movie's are downloaded in torrent form, does an NAS unpack them? Or do I have to download them to my laptop and then convert them/send them to the NAS?

Unfortunately, I'm a little ignorant when it comes to this part and there's so much info. in the forums that it's hard to get specific answers.

thanks
2008-03-10 01:59 PM
hugh
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Shouldn't the NAS stream the files to the PS3?
Ideally it should!

The Dlink NAS device that I have can be set up as a DNLA server but my experience with DNLA clients such as the PS3 was pretty lousy. A lot has to do with the fact that the PS3 can't playback a lot of files because of the format they are in.

TVersity, essentially is a box that can take a file and perform the necessary conversions so the PS3 or similar device can handle it.

For example, TVersity lets me playback the same file on my television via the PS3 or have it streamed wirelessly to my iPod Touch



2008-03-10 01:13 PM
bluepine Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole point of a NAS is so you don't have to have your PC running? Shouldn't the NAS stream the files to the PS3?
I'm also new to this area of tech, but I was debating whether to get a NAS (DNLA/UPNP) or a just an old PC running XP and a big hard drive.
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