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Well, the Apple Watch is certainly better than any of the Android Wear watches, but it costs ~$100 more. I'm still not convinced that many people would actually want a watch when you have a smartphone around.
Price-wise, a Pebble Steel costs as much as a basic AppleWatch once you factor in the exchange rate, taxes and shipping fees from China.

I'm still trying to figure out what else my Pebble can do aside from tell time and display notifications. Apple's new watch however definitely looks like an improvement over everything else currently on the market. But as you've mentioned, why would you need a limited functionality smartwatch when you already have a full functioning smartphone?

This market segment's viability is still very much in the air.
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It would be nice if an electronic payment system took off...something that reaches a critical mass and becomes the standard. Unfortunately I don't see anything compelling with Apple's new payment system. Though it does appear to be easy to set up by just taking a photo of your cards then the system validates them for use.
We've already got PayPass standardized and accepted at most new chip+pin terminals, why we can't have a standardized "PayPass for Mobile" system I don't know.

Once again Apple has set up this system by "partnering" with certain retailers instead of using existing tap and pay systems.
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Safari is available for Windows is it not?
Sure is, so I downloaded and installed it. Still got the same error message, so they were limiting the webcast to Apple devices only.
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Getting back to the (very interesting) mobile payment system:
I couldn't quite figure out how this will be accomplished with
the AppleWatch and am glad to learn I'm not alone
http://recode.net/2014/09/09/how-mob...e-apple-watch/

This isn't the only one question left unanswered
http://recode.net/2014/09/09/what-we...and-apple-pay/
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They did a demo of the Watch, in the keynote, using the pay system.


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And how did the demo answer the question?
How is it secure if the watch doesn't have a fingerprint sensor?

Here is a good summary of the watch
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/09/a...about-nothing/
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Sure is, so I downloaded and installed it. Still got the same error message, so they were limiting the webcast to Apple devices only.
Not sure about that...it actually outright crashed Safari on my browser....many times. I've seen Safari crater before, but very rarely.

I guess my point is that it may have been a technical issue overall as opposed to a platform restriction.

All-in-all, no surprises. The iPhone6 didn't rock my world. I was hoping for a last second reveal of an iOS8 feature, and that didn't materialise. Apple Pay isn't announced for Canada yet, and if iTunes Radio is any indication, it could be a long wait. I did like the emphasis on privacy, though, since that's what I pay the Apple premium for.

WATCH was a lot more compelling than I thought it would be, although it's still a marginal product. I doubt I'll partake.

Looking forward now to the ipad refresh...that's what I really want to upgrade.
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And how did the demo answer the question?
How is it secure if the watch doesn't have a fingerprint sensor?

Here is a good summary of the watch
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/09/a...about-nothing/

From my understanding is that it uses the security from the iPhone it's connected to.

You keep posting negative reviews. I've found lots of positive reviews to the iPhones and Watch. One from Engadget in fact. Are you searching specifically for negative reviews? :rolleyes.

The positives are easy to find. I won't post the links that are too easy to find on google.


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Priceless...

"So excited for the Apple Watch. For centuries, we’ve checked the time by
looking at our phones. Having it on your wrist? Genius."
-----Ellen DeGeneres

"The Apple Watch finally allows users to ruin two devices when they reach into the toilet to retrieve their iPhone."
-----Comedy Central

"Apple’s Sport Watch will lead to millions of nerds working out really hard for like 3 days."
-----Alex Flint

Taken from here.
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Funny we are talking about new phones and "iwatches" yet they can't managed a streamed press conference without it going kaput.

I'll make a not so bold prediction that in 12 months time those iwatches are in clearance centers for less than $199. .....the current price of the Samsung Gear 2 is $215 through discounters in Canada.

This is a market neither are going to make big bank on, it's all about swinging their corporate wangs on miniaturization, not useability.
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You keep posting negative reviews. I've found lots of positive reviews to the iPhones and Watch. One from Engadget in fact. Are you searching specifically for negative reviews? :rolleyes.
four has been posting anti-Apple stuff since he joined. You shouldn't be surprised
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I'm not an apple fan, I did have high hopes for this phone, but it looks like apple is up to it's same old tricks, holding back so they have something to release on the next phone.

Wireless AC, NFC and large screens have been on competitors flagships for years.
Still 1 gb of ram, still no 1080p screen,
But I agree with apple this time, 4.7" is a good screen size, just 2 phones too late

looking at the pics they should really call it the iPhone One

Still will be a hugely popular phone, work perfect for calls and texts.

smart watch, meh apple or not.

And only time will tell, but did they get some decent battery life out of it this time around?

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four has been posting anti-Apple stuff since he joined. You shouldn't be surprised

Lol, I've noticed that on the iPhone 6 thread. Just about everything posted by four was negative. Maybe Apple offended him for some reason, and he has a grudge against them.


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I find this better than claiming to have witnessed miracles, e.g. problem-less live streaming...
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Apple is interesting...those who like their products, really love them....and those who don't like them, really hate them.

They're easy to hate....the loyal fans are often staring down their noses at the unwashed masses...their marketing appeals at an emotional level often ignoring facts, and the premium pricing model does exclude many, especially outside the Western world.

Apple products are targeted at (and largely owned by) people with a different goal. PCs and Androids are aimed at people who want products that do everything, connect to every accessory standard and runs every program from any author. They value that flexibility over everything else.

Apple customers appreciate finer aesthetics (a subjective statement, but generally upheld to be true), a UI that may not have every up-to-second tweak but is finely tuned and thought--out, and a more stable safe environment against viruses, privacy invasions and malware.

Both sides have their drawbacks. Apple's keyboard is hands-down the worst out there. I can't expand memory, so I always buy the biggest capacity at greater expense. I can't venture outside their locked down areas such as an integrated SIP dialler. Etc.

Android is selling out your data to a far greater extent than most people want to believe. They have a practical monopoly on malware, the UI is often inconsistent and not intuitive. The race-to-bottom pricing often means the hardware you just bought will not run even the current release of the OS.

They both work. Just decide what's important to you and pick your team.
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