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post #16 of 133 (permalink) Old 2011-10-20, 11:08 AM
 
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Consumer sees cool Android app on friends device and wants to buy it.
Consumer disappointed when he/she finds out their phone or tablet isn't the right flavour of Android.
Consumer angry when they can't update to ICS.
Well, I get the same issue with my second generation iPod (or say an iPhone 3G) which is stuck at iOS 4.2.1, so don't have access to AirPrint or any of the newer iOS5 stuff...

Most Android apps can be backward compatible down to Android 1.6 (or lower), if the developer considers that it's worth the extra effort...
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<sigh>Why does everyone have to take a comment and twist into a way to bash Apple or whatever the competing device/service/product is.

This thread is about Android 4.0.

As noted, I think it looks great and I think it will be well received when it comes natively installed on new devices.

I just happen to think that Android could have a significant PR issue in the coming year if consumers expectations are not managed well. I think most consumers understand Technological obsolescence in consumer electronics but smartphones and tablets are a new category and people need to be educated or else you could have consumer backlash when people realize the smartphone they just bought a few months ago won't run the latest OS or app.



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I was reading an article last night, regarding the Asus Transformer eee 1st gen tablet and it will be upgraded to ICS. I'm looking forward to seeing the 2nd gen tablet, when it comes out, this fall. The wife is finding all kinds of uses for Android and the tablet in her classroom. Presently she's working on finding ways to use the tablet and her smartboard together. As far as I know the kids are loving it. I think I'll pick up a device myself with ICS on it, to see what it's all about.
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I can't say what will happen with ICS, but there were almost no apps for exclusively for Gingerbread. If it's a productivity app then I suspect it will be made to work for 2.X devices, unless there is a hardware issue, just because 2.X devices are most of the developer's market. It will be a couple of years before that segment is no longer significant.

The only people who should worry are people who are buying the Bell Galaxy S Vibrant (not the GSII) on a three year contract today, but Google can't do anything about that.
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I understand that but I meant more generically. The 500,000 people activating Android devices everyday don't know all these things.

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Consumer sees cool Android app on friends device and wants to buy it.
Consumer disappointed when he/she finds out their phone or tablet isn't the right flavour of Android.
Consumer angry when they can't update to ICS.

Possible Result: Consumer says "Android sucks, I am going to get an iPhone or WP7 or .."


I just think Google or ??? need to manage consumers expectations or there will be a world of hurt.
Wow, that scenario is a stretch, imo.

If a consumer was ready to ditch their phone because it couldn't handle a cool ICS app, they'd probably just get an ICS device.

If anything, the consumer would think they better stick with Android instead of getting tricked by another OS.
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Being new to the Android platform, can you please tell me who is responsible for updating an existing smartphone to ICS? The service provider, the hardware OEM? Or is up to the consumer's discretion?

Is there anyway to tell if your phone is compatable (HTC panache on Mobi, in my case ), such as a list of upgrade-able hardware ?

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The hardware manufacturer if it's a factory unlocked device (and sometimes for the locked ones)
Otherwise your carrier, as they often have their own customized versions.
The exception is the Nexus series, which gets updates straight from google (and therefore the fastest)

If you're not opposed to unlocking/rooting you can install any version for your phone that you'd like, yourself.
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Except for Nexus devices, the manufacturer is always responsible for making the version of Android run on their hardware. If the phone is a carrier sold device, once the manufacturer finishes the update the carrier needs to test and approve it.

Here's how it works:

For a Nexus device: Google -> You

For a factory unlocked device: Google -> Manufacturer -> You

For a carrier sold device: Google -> Manufacturer -> Carrier -> You

I would be surprised if the Panache gets an official update as there aren't a lot of them out there. However, it may well get an unofficial custom ROM built by a third party.
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Engadet is reporting that there will be no ICS for the N1.
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Not impressed with google on that one.
The hardware is barely below that of the NS, so I don't buy their 'too old' argument.

I wouldn't be surprised if CM can make a build that works flawlessly on it.
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I suspect the limited internal storage might be the issue. If ICS is 10-15% bigger than Gingerbread, that would leave critically low space for apps. I'm having space issues as it is.
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The Xoom is slated to get ICS as stated by Motorola - "We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices."

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I suspect the limited internal storage might be the issue. If ICS is 10-15% bigger than Gingerbread, that would leave critically low space for apps. I'm having space issues as it is.
Me too. Slight OT, but does rooting a N1 allow you to move system apps out of internal storage and onto the micro SD?
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The Xoom is slated to get ICS as stated by Motorola
Did you really think that Google wouldn't update its own tablet



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Did you really think that Google wouldn't update its own tablet
Well, considering the N1...
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