Thanks Yaamon not a problem we did have a really good local installer but he's into big communication stuff and he never got back to me after he came out once. He gave lots of insite on ideas and we chatted for over an hour but I guess he is busy on the bigger towers. I know of a guy in Brantford who is also good so maybe have to get him down. He suggested to me go to 4228 as well and it will out do my old yagi in wonders he said its actually quite suprising as it suprised him in an install. Have fun on your trip I wouldn't want you to stop while leaving for a vacation anyhow.