Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Toronto, Rogers, NB 3.0, 70" Sharp LED, Toshiba 72" DLP RPTV connected to computer
57 – I could go to my recordings list to watch a program – but then my only option is to begin watching the program from the beginning. There are occasions when I want to just drop into a program “live” and check it out, and in the just mentioned case, I wanted to start with the live program and go back two minutes to start watching from a couple of minutes ago. I just hate it when they take options AWAY that were available ‘yesterday.’
And not only that, now after the “upgrade” to 130 version firmware, now almost ALL of my Scheduled Recordings are DUPLICATED. Q$#%$%%$^%$%&^&# I’ve got TWO versions of shows that the box says it wants to record. One on the upper channel in the 500 range – and another version it says it wants to record on the corresponding same duplicate channel in the 0-100 channel range. OMG. Who came up with this “feature”? And why? And then I noticed that nice old consistent Rogers has CHANGED BACK the order of some menus to what they were some time ago – like the order of options in the Applications Menu. Six months ago they had the thing I use MOST often – Search – in the middle of the list, and then they ‘fixed’ things by moving it to the TOP of the choices – AND NOW THEY’VE MOVED IT BACK INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE CHOICES AGAIN. Geeze Rogers – make up your mind. And they’ve added Save Until Space is Needed to the Delete menu. Is ANYBODY ever actually going to use that choice? I can’t imagine using it myself. It just clutters my screen.
Hi Gary/Garfield. I think rebooting the box EVERY DAY may fix a host of problems. I’ve had a bunch of programs not record and some only record partially. I’m still not sure, but I wonder if daily manual reboots might reduce that problem too.
I think the managers that are making the choices about the manner that this firmware works are morons. The design decisions are just incredibly dumb – IMHO.
Hi Hooter. It might seem like I’m saying that EVERYTHING about the NB3 is awful – and that’s not the case – I’m just so incredibly irritated by bugs and poor design choices in the logic of the firmware that I’m ranting like a lunatic because the box drives me around the bend – but the ability to record 8 programs is nice – if the box let me watch a program while I was recording more than two programs, and the NB 3 is significantly more peppy than the dinosaur NB 2.
I’m not saying the NB is all bad – just that some things about it will want to make you throw it through your window at times. And I’m starting to think that the problems I’m having with the NB 3 are when it is recording MORE than two programs. I notice that if I can’t watch a recorded program (I get a black screen when I press Play in the program list screen) when the box is recording 3 programs, that if I stop recording one of those programs and am just recording two shows, that I have, on occasion, been able to watch a recorded program again.
So I’m thinking the box “runs out of resources.” Initially I thought it may be a problem with the signal level in my house – but I asked tech about that and they say No. And the box works fairly well if I MANUALLY reboot it EVERY DAY before I record my evening programs – but it’s really a pain to have to remember to do that – and if I forget – I can’t use the box to watch anything previously recorded-if it is recording several programs. So if I didn’t remember to reboot the box before 8 pm, I probably can’t watch anything on it until after 11 pm. THAT is a pain in the $#%^$#%.
And I guess it still really bugs me that the NB’s are missing out on about 15 nice features that WERE present in SARA. Little things like freeze frame and the ability to surf through the TV listings WHILE you can still press play and pause on the program you are in the middle of watching, and a dedicated channel 950 that remembered the program you were watching, so that you could temporarily leave watching a recorded program to glance at the news or weather, and when you returned to ch 950 the program was still there at the place you paused watching ready to continue. And missing are those little marks on the TV guide that show you that a movie or show actually begins at the left edge of the listing – so that you know that you haven’t missed out on the previous ½ hour or hour of the show.
So the box works REASONABLY well – but I’m still missing out on some programs that do NOT record, and some programs that only record partially – and I miss being able to record only parts of programs – either the first half or last half, and being able to skip quickly to the end of the program or in 15 minute intervals (the 3 minute skip is almost as useful if you hit it several times) – and I have to admit that the 3 minute skip forward is a VERY NICE FEATURE to say goodbye to commercials. But I even miss little things like being able to stop recording a delete a program in one step the way SARA did – and I used that feature several times a day – but then, I have to admit that I watch WAY too much TV.
So, in summary, Hooter, I’d say it’s almost a draw moving from the 8300 to the NB 3. DON’T suffer through the NB 2. It is agonizingly slow and stupidly underpowered in the processing chip. With the NB 3 you get a bunch of improvements over the 8300 – but there are also steps backwards. So it’s not a complete loss. You just have to decide for yourself whether you can live with what, for some people, is a less reliable PVR. Maybe I’m pushing the box too hard by asking it to record more than 2 programs at once AND play back a program at the SAME time.
So, Hooter, as 57 says, there are LOTS of users who are NOT having the problems that me and NeilPalmer are.
But, Hooter, please do tell us more about being banned from the Rogers forums. Did you tell too much truth about Rogers faults?
And I guess I’m also peeved that I just learned that I’ve been paying Extreme download internet prices for WAY TOO LONG – while my stupid generation 2 modem that I bought is not capable of giving me ANYWHERE NEAR the download speeds that I’ve been PAYING FOR.
And then I’m bugged that every month or two Rogers disables my PVR and limits my channels and stops me from making long distance calls (I’ve got stupid Rogers Home Phone) – and they do this because I haven’t paid my bill yet. I guess this seems fair to some – bit it’s still VERY irritating. Especially since I’ve signed up for long distance with another company – so I’m not paying Rogers for my long distance, but they AUTOMATICALLY BLOCK me from making long distance calls when they decide my payment is a bit late. And not only can’t I make long distance calls – THESE $%@!#$!#$ block me from even making COLLECT CALLS. I feel like they’re treating me like a little kid. So the rage you sense in my rant about the NB3 is coming from a WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS about Rogers that anger me far beyond words. My rants here are because I can’t afford to buy an F16 or B52 and make strafing runs at their headquarters.