Originally Posted by dynot
MFABIEN, any complaint will help............etc.....
Totally express my point of view 100% but said in a far better way that I could have....By the way, not only did I file a complaint to the CRTC which role is, as you say so rightfully, to stand up for the canadian consumers, protect their interest, and certainly is NOT provide licences to use as a weapon of competition....but I also wrote to Discovery themselves to which I got no reply so far and frankly, I do not expect one. If they do, they will probably as you say , again so rightfully, throw back the ball at videotron....Personally, after investing so much money in my HD system, I will neglect no avenues whatsoever to get offered what I should be able to get as a consumer and I see the CRTC as the guardian fo that. Not long ago, Radio Canada had two programs regarding HD televison: "5 sur 5" and a program called "Découverte" which is the french word for discovery oddly enough....Also, La Presse, a major french newspaper in Montreal had a whole section discussing HD television. I may even write to all those journalist to make them aware of that situation. I am so pissed off with it that I will stir as much sh*t as I can on this issue.... It is not a question of blaming the CRTC for that situation at all, it is a question of letting them know what is happening and our displeasure with it... If we let this thing go, what is to say it won't be the same every time a new HD station comes out, such as National Geographic soon.....Let us not forget that cable companies have exclusive territories and as long as it will be like that, yes, a government agency should regulate their action to a degree.....in order to protect our rights.....If no one tells them and we rely on the suppliers of service to solve that, not only we will be getting the run around (all the BS answers) that we are presently getting, but I have little hope it can be solved. I also wrote to videotron to complain and interestingly enough, the answers given to complainers do vary. From the excuse that the signal were cut from them, to they decide to cut it themselves because it wasn't in their customer's interest and so many other "excuses"....Let's face it, we do not know the real reason that happened and we can't count on neither companies to tell us....This is why I wrote to the CRTC, not to blame them but to check in to that situation and maybe let them know that their licence may be used not for the purpose it was granted but rather as a edge for competition for a company versus another....and that is wrong....plain and simple...as CaptQuebec said...
Originally Posted by captqbec
...as canadian taxpayers of supposedly equal priviliges, why should Videotron subscribers not enjoy the same viewing opportunities as Bell ExpressVue.
The CRTC licenses are NOT granted for gaining a marketing edge over one's competition.
We should at least have the option to pay for it if available.
And how about the degradation of HD and sound quality since the Buffalo switch...if the feed is crap and you receive crap at 16mb/s it still remains crap...
Thus, the CRTC should be implicated, as nonchalant as they might be.
Couldn't have said it better.... Reflects my point of view entirely
Originally Posted by Touti
I know someone who was present at the meeting when this decision was made. The reason is very simple, it is in fact because DiscHD now wants 2.00$/month per subscriber. This is more than 4 times the average price for HD stations which, I believe, is around 47 cents.
At 5.99$/month, DiscHD's demand would take off 40% of Videotron's retail price which would probably make the whole HD broadcasting no longer profitable.
Then, it is a question to check if the price asked to Videotron by them is the same as the one asked to other providers such as Rogers since Rogers offers that station as we speak. If not, it is not fair play and it doesn't serve canadian consumer's interest (which is one of the roles as I see it for the CRTC)....If not, it also means that they specifically asked for conditions to Videotron so unreasonable that the purpose is obviously not "kosher". Is it related to the war in basic phone lines and/or the court case between Bell and Videotron regarding the ease of pirating satellite TV ??? Your post certainly raises a few questions in my mind... I have to presume that Videotron knew about the price asked prior to putting Discovery on air....as any business man would do that before "retailing" any product and setting a price for it. You have to know your cost before you start selling, not after.....I have difficulties understanding why this doesn't seem to be the case here...Did Discovery change their price after an agreement, in the last minute or Videotron miscalculated their true cost before offering it in a package ??? Either way, it seems quite stupid to me. Why is it that Rogers finds it profitable and Videotron not profitable if the "per subscriber price" is the same (presuming it is) ??? Many points are not clear to me.....
Anyway, I couldn't care less if they charhe $3.00 extra ( a nice 33% profit) to make it available to me because frankly the rest of the HD package is crap to me anyway and I don't need it. The way I see it, I'd save myself $2.95 a month should they decide to go that route....since they charge $5.95 a month for their package I don't want anyway...
My two cents worth :-)
P.S. : I am glad to see that "mfabien" apologized to "pronut" but I have yet to see an apology from him for making fun of my posting sarcastically and with a great deal of patronizing to an opinion that I was entitled to have, that ought to be respected very much the same way I respect everyone's opinion . Furthermore my opinion seems to be shared by many as I see it....so If my opinion deserved such an sarcastic answer, the ones that shared it deserved it....