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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 2018-05-04, 08:16 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hunting for farthest East low altitude Ku birds ->15W to 3W!

Hi guys,

Apparently 3W is receivable on ABS-3A (Americas beam) [Satbeams 8209]

11132,H,30000,3/4 DVB-S2 8PSK
11168,H,30000,3/4 DVB-S2 QPSK

Need clear LOS down at 4.7deg from my location to catch -- will test soon...

So far I can receive:

15W Telstar 12V (Pan American beam) [Satbeams 8364]

10975,V,6726,1/2 DVB-S (carrier only)
10983,H,45000,4/5 DVB-S2 QPSK2 (only radio ITC)
11733,H,45000,4/5 DVB-S2 QPSK2
11795,H,45000,4/5 DVB-S2 QPSK2 (5 TV ITC)
11857,H,45000,4/5 DVB-S2 QPSK2
11919,H,45000,4/5 DVB-S2 QPSK2

Anyone else able to catch anything lower than 15W on the Ku bands?

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location: Montreal, QC
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 2018-05-05, 02:05 PM
 
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A number of years ago I was able to snag Atlantic Bird at 8 W KU. I set up a temp 33" dish in the driveway. I had to tilt the mast towards the sat so it was no longer vertical because the dish on its mount was as far down as it could go and it just cleared the roof across the street.

There was not a lot to view.

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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 2018-05-06, 09:58 AM
 
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from here in Manitoba, NSS806 at 47.5'W (C-Band) was as low as I could go without heavy modifications to the sat mount... and modification to trees accross the neighbor's lot. I no longer have C-band...)
Ku seems to go dead for me at around 50'W now even with no trees that low
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 2018-05-06, 11:21 AM
 
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I wish I was at my Nova Scotia location to try. 3W would be 12 deg elevation so it's possible with the dish upside down. Like jorgek, I have seen 8W in past which is 15 deg elevation. I've tried to catch others beyond 15W but I'd have to check my notes (other computer) to know if I got any results. I know I tried.

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post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 2018-05-24, 08:16 AM
 
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30W is my farthest east so far (southern MB). I have the dish mounted on a mast above the gable of the roof in order to clear some trees half a Km away. Using an SG2100 motor, USALS won't turn the dish that far, but DISEqC control will. Think it actually hits the physical stop on the motor. The dish is a 90cm geosat pro and universal PLL LNBF. 30w is 6 deg off the horizon from here, and maybe 2-3 degrees above the distant tree line.

SBGH @ 46', 10' C-band, & various home made projects...
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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 2018-05-27, 08:36 AM
 
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My notes confirm I received 8W and 12.5W from Nova Scotia in 2013. I was using a 1-metre Star Choice dish. Dish images below are set for 14 degrees elevation.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/pict...ictureid=15226
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/pict...ictureid=15234
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/pict...ictureid=15250
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/pict...ictureid=15242
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/pict...ictureid=15258

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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 2018-06-03, 12:54 AM Thread Starter
 
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Hey guys, I have further confirmed the following ITC channels below:

12.5W @ 11541V/4168 DVB-S2 QPSK = "AASP TV" SD & HD, though just black screen -- no programming on when I viewed.

15W @ 10983H/45000 DVB-S2 QPSK = 2 SD tv channels from Venezuela recently ITC...
15W @ 11800H/45000 DVB-S2 QPSK = same 5 SD tv channels still ITC..

Was not able to confirm anything at 3W yet due to obstructions at my location -- will have to try from elsewhere later this summer...


ps. Jorjek & Cyberham, nice to see you guys are still around after all this time!
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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 2018-06-03, 06:10 AM
 
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Good to see you are still chasing the eastern satellites. 8W is the furthest east I've seen. I wonder why my images posted on May 27 are no longer visible. Maybe I need to reduce their byte size.

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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 2018-07-08, 01:32 AM
 
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From Toronto Telstar 12 Vantage at 15.0°W is only 9 degrees above the horizon. Most offset antennas can't go down that low so the trick is to invert the antenna... basically you just flip it over. Here is an antenna receiving Telstar 12 Vantage at 15.0°W from Toronto that I setup a couple of years ago.


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post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 2018-07-08, 06:06 PM
 
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You don't have to invert the dish. All I do is tilt the mast from vertical towards the satellite. Much easier and quicker!

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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 2019-08-11, 06:13 AM
 
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I wonder if anybody has news on this subject? I now have my 1.2-metre Ku dish up again and I was checking the far eastern satellites but I found nothing. In that direction in summer, I can see around the trees from east of 30W to 8W or perhaps further east. Maybe my USALS is off that far east so I need at least one active transponder to look for.

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