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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 2008-07-17, 07:23 PM Thread Starter
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16:10 vs 16:9 Monitors

There was a news article on a 16:9 native laptop for "better movie viewing", but I don't see a corresponding thread.
I just wanted to make a comment that may prove useful for those considering one or the other.
16:9 is a "perfect" fit for HDtv and most movies.
However, in a transitional period such as now, 16:10 is better for watching a mix of the two.
4:3 material can stretch larger within the 16:10, producing smaller bars on the left and right, similar to the ones visible with 16:9 at the top and bottom.
So, with 16:10 you have less bars at the left/right with 4:3(narrower than if it were 16:9), but you also have bars on 16:9 along the top/bottom (quite narrow)
It's a "best of both worlds" situation, in essence.
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 2008-07-19, 12:18 PM
 
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It's a "best of both worlds" situation, in essence.
This depends on whether you are a half-full or half-empty kind of person...

I find the problems associated with running Clone Mode when connecting HTPCs
to a 16:10 monitor and 16:9 HDTV being the biggest drawback with 16:10 screens.
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I like to think I'm a half-full person... most of the time. (lol )

Is there a particular reason for using clone mode?
Would you actually watch a program on both screens at once?
You could set up dual screen mode and set the TV as primary so that it will show videos properly.
Just a suggestion
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I prefer Clone for the very reason - primary display.
You can switch to VMR, but then you have to watch colorspace.
Switching primary/secondary can be set up on a remote but nor very WAF-friendly.

The best of course is to have a dedicated HTPC.
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It's all about being chintzy. Remember 1900x1600 monitors? Well, they seem to have been replaced by 1920x1200 monitors. And apparently, those are due to be replaced by 1920x1080 monitors. Notice what's happening to the vertical pixel count? Given how 90% of web sites are laid out, maybe 1080x1920 might be a more appropriate size,

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The different aspects are night-and-day, however.
16:10 is MUCH easier to work with and easier on the eyes than 4:3
16:9 and 16:10 difference is negligible, I would say.
It seems like widescreen monitors give so much more space than the ~1/3 more on the width - if you have/have used one you'll know what I mean

Its all in marketing too - that 1900x1600 monitor could've been advertised as 19" (I dunno what size it would've been, just an example)
That same width monitor in widescreen may be 21"
So they make it slightly smaller, still call it 19" and give you less, thinking you get more
A 22" widescreen monitor is roughly the same size as a 19" monitor, with a bit extra on the sides (same height, more width)
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I don't remember where I read this, but humans spend much less energy moving the head/eye left-to-right than top-to-bottom. Hence, it's less tiring. This was claimed to be the reason for movies going widescreen (as opposed to high screen).

As laptops take over desktops and become more and more an entertainment device as much as work tool, their specs move closer to movie screen ratios.

I'm using 2 side by side 1600x1200 screens for over 3 years now (for work) and find widescreen laptop screens not widescreen enough...
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Been using a 1680x1050 monitor for the last 6 months.... I love widescreen and it hurts to use a regular 1280x1024 display at work! Thats 16:12!! ughhh
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Been using a 1680x1050 monitor for the last 6 months.... I love widescreen and it hurts to use a regular 1280x1024 display at work! Thats 16:12!! ughhh
1280x1024 display's AR is actually 15:12 (or 5:4)
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From what I've heard, the reason for 16:10 is so you can have a 16:9 video playing and still show the taskbar (or other menu strip) below.
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From what I've heard, the reason for 16:10 is so you can have a 16:9 video playing and still show the taskbar (or other menu strip) below.
I think you may be onto something...but the strange thing is the bottom window will only show if the 'fullscreen' is screwed up and not go on top, so I don't know if I'll buy the theory :~)

Main advantage remains to be a compromize for 4:3, 3:2(720x480) and 16:9 content.

I have no problem with the 4:3/3:2 stuff being stretched horizontally, but I refuse to stretch 16:9 to 16:10.

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From what I've heard, the reason for 16:10 is so you can have a 16:9 video playing and still show the taskbar (or other menu strip) below.
This is exactly the reason I prefer 16:10 to 16:9 when it comes to Computer LCD monitors. The user might need to set the LCD monitor to display per pixel mapping which will show the thin black bars on the top and the bottom when viewing 16:9 video feeds at full screen on 16:10 monitors though, otherwise the image might be stretched vertically.

Also when using a widescreen monitor (22" or bigger), I tend to have my application in Windowed mode unless I am using an app like Photoshop or a programming IDE with a lot of panes in them. In this case, having multimonitors is the way to go.
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