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post #16 of 20 (permalink) Old 2009-12-02, 11:40 AM Thread Starter
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USB 3.0 more versatile than eSATA

Yes, unfortunately some of the original eSATA sockets were nothing more than standard SATA sockets (not hot-swappable) in the newer form factor! I had to buy a PCI-E eSATA card for one of my older machines due to that issue after having a backup/hot-swap go down in flames on the old socket. The newer ones don't have that problem.

Also USB 3.0 is meant to be a versatile technology for many uses, like its progenitors, while eSATA is meant to be a mobo-hard drive technology that is unlikely to show up on iPods and other consumer eletronics gear in the future. For those reasons a USB 3.0 PCI-E card would be a boon for mobos without it.

Shameless plug: the latest Linux kernel RC (2.6.32) already has USB 3.0 support built-in, being the very first OS to offer this.



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The HotSwap.exe home page provides a list of supported controllers so it should be easy to get it working well. In my experience, some of those "soldered on" motherboard eSATA ports do not work well so a card or adapter may be the best option.

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I don't see USB 3.0 gaining a whole lot of traction before LightPeak comes along and supplants it as the high-speed peripheral connection standard.
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All any of these physical data buses ever have on top of the world are maybe a few years before the next few speed kings come up. USB3.0 will simply be the one for now. Light Peak, if adopted across more than one consumer industry, will certainly take over when its ready.



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Yes, unfortunately some of the original eSATA sockets were nothing more than standard SATA sockets (not hot-swappable) in the newer form factor! I had to buy a PCI-E eSATA card for one of my older machines due to that issue after having a backup/hot-swap go down in flames on the old socket. The newer ones don't have that problem.

Also USB 3.0 is meant to be a versatile technology for many uses, like its progenitors, while eSATA is meant to be a mobo-hard drive technology that is unlikely to show up on iPods and other consumer eletronics gear in the future. For those reasons a USB 3.0 PCI-E card would be a boon for mobos without it.

Shameless plug: the latest Linux kernel RC (2.6.32) already has USB 3.0 support built-in, being the very first OS to offer this.
As an interesting aside Shaw just did a firmware update that enables e-sata hot swapping on the old motorola 6412 stb pvr it even allows for huge terra byte hard drives after the flash update. The price you pay is a really quick format but that is to be expected...I guess they expect people to try to steal the content off the drives.

I think it is still using a proprietary file system from IBM but..if a 5 year old really early release sata based pvr with a very small firmware capacity can hot swap e-sata then certainly my two year old Mobo with 8 meg of bios flash ram from asus should be able to do it! If asus updates the bios for this Mobo! GRRRR...

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