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post #631 of 679 (permalink) Old 2009-12-10, 05:09 PM
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NO, since they obviously had it in 16:9, that's how they should have shown it, even if only up converted from SD. I was able to zoom it to full screen, but why should I have to, considering it's on a HD channel? By doing it the way they did, they limited the resolution.
im talking bout the SD fireplace yule log channel, they should keep it in a 4:3 window, i dont want burn-in on my crt.
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post #632 of 679 (permalink) Old 2009-12-10, 05:36 PM
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Burn-in from the fireplace channel? ;-)

Is burn-in still an issue with CRTs? IIRC, that problem has been resolved. You'd have to leave it on for a very long time for it to be noticable.
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The HD box is $12.95; the SD box is $4.49. I pass by a local retailer daily who has been selling the HD box for $179. If I bought it last month, it would be paid for by next Christmas in "rental recovery". The boxes are solid state electronics and come with a two year warranty. Why rent?!?



Most signals travel via fibre to cable head-ends already. The capacity issues are in the network architecture: the fibre-coax hybrid delivery system already delivers an incredible amount of data to the back of your TV set. Techniques like switched digital video, already in place by Rogers and others, promise more-or-less infinite capacity. The "in due time" bit is really dependent on specialty channels moving to HD, not the cable provider (satellite, OTOH, does have finite resources).



I dunno. Practically everyone who starred in the first 3D movies are dead -- think Vincent Price in House of Wax or Ray Milland and Grace Kelly in Dial M for Murder -- so it's not going out on a limb to think that if 56 years have passed already, 3D TV is no serious short term threat. Let's concentrate on Space HD and worry about History 3D some other time.



There are far more TV viewers for whom languages other than French are more relevant in Toronto. It's good to see Ottawa has had them first, and that they've arrived here as well. But I wonder whether V HD will really pull as much audience here as a Mandarin, Spanish or Tagalog (Filipino) language channel. Given HD channels use the same capacity as 4 or 5 SD ones, launching 10 new French HD channels in the Toronto market (which Rogers has done recently) means trade-offs.

It looks like WYSIWYG is, at least, a happier camper than before.
What retailer are you talking about that has the HD box for 179 and is that with the new subscriber discount etc?
I'm looking to upgrade my owned SD box for a HD box , but don't want to spend the 249 or even the 199 for it when i've seen it for 149 in the late fall (can't remember where though)

2001 A/V has it now for 149 but with different rebates and one being a 50 dollar new subscriber discount , hey where's the discount for us people that have had digital box's since 1999?? When it was still Shaw.
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What retailer are you talking about that has the HD box for 179 and is that with the new subscriber discount etc?
I'm looking to upgrade my owned SD box for a HD box , but don't want to spend the 249 or even the 199 for it when i've seen it for 149 in the late fall (can't remember where though)

2001 A/V has it now for 149 but with different rebates and one being a 50 dollar new subscriber discount , hey where's the discount for us people that have had digital box's since 1999?? When it was still Shaw.
Last year BB and FS had the HD boxes for $99 on Boxing Week sales - which actually begin on Dec 24. So if you can wait 13 days you might get a good deal - but no guarantees.
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Last year BB and FS had the HD boxes for $99 on Boxing Week sales - which actually begin on Dec 24. So if you can wait 13 days you might get a good deal - but no guarantees.
Was it with all the programming credits do you know? Or just for the box?

I was planning on waiting to see if the price drops over the xmas season , but hoping for a half decent price.
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Fireplace Channel HD!

Woo-Hoo!

They updated it and are now showing a NEW fireplace.

The old one had such fake crackling ever second and it looked like it was at "x2" speed and the white hearth was cold in feeling. This one is totally realistic in looks and sound... especially sound! This channel I can actually sit down and watch... for background.

I disagree on the need to put Christmas music over it. Go buy a dime-a-dozen Christmas CD and pop it in if you want to hear seasonal tunes. I like it juuuuuust the way it is!
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I don't know why in late-2009 there's even an OPTION to buy a SD box (???). If you want to "future-proof" yourself, buy a HD box. You'll still get ALL the channels you did before PLUS access to many, many others HD ones, including FREE HD... even if you have a CRT TV; just ignore or put up w/ the black bars. New channels like V (TQS) don't even have a SD equivalent.

I enjoyed the Treasure/Equator/Oasis/Rush HD free preview, even on my CRT TV. I went over to my brothers house where he was watching on his 42" LCD and it was nice *not* seeing the black bars. Makes me want to buy a HD set when I get the money.
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i predict eventually rogers will pull a bell and start offering hd only set top boxes, which will work with standard definition analogue television sets too, they wll be able to watch hd programming, but the box will downconvert the signals to 480i/p all broadcasters will eventually switch to hd channels, its only a matter of time, we're still stuck in the transition phase and due to this, we have to put up with backwards compatibility with older technology untill everything either breaks or becomes obsolete. They did this in Italy, my dad said they switched everything to high definition and digital broadcasts, and unlike canada, they did it realitively fast and a smooth roll out. everyone co-operates, the government gives rebates too and thats a bonus.
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i predict eventually rogers will pull a bell and start offering hd only set top boxes, which will work with standard definition analogue television sets too, they wll be able to watch hd programming, but the box will downconvert the signals to 480i/p all broadcasters will eventually switch to hd channels, its only a matter of time, we're still stuck in the transition phase and due to this, we have to put up with backwards compatibility with older technology untill everything either breaks or becomes obsolete. They did this in Italy, my dad said they switched everything to high definition and digital broadcasts, and unlike canada, they did it realitively fast and a smooth roll out. everyone co-operates, the government gives rebates too and thats a bonus.
The HD terminals can already do this... I have a SA 4250 that is on a normal 4:3 TV which just RCA inputs and downcoverted to 480i. Also, my SA 8300HD is connected to my Slingbox A/V with the same inputs AND also outputs using HDMI to the HD TV in the room. When I remote view my slingbox, its 480i.
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Woo-Hoo!

They updated it and are now showing a NEW fireplace.

The old one had such fake crackling ever second and it looked like it was at "x2" speed and the white hearth was cold in feeling. This one is totally realistic in looks and sound... especially sound! This channel I can actually sit down and watch... for background.

I disagree on the need to put Christmas music over it. Go buy a dime-a-dozen Christmas CD and pop it in if you want to hear seasonal tunes. I like it juuuuuust the way it is!
For all the trouble that they are putting into getting this channel going, seems like a waste of time if they are going to take it down in January... hmm...
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The fireplace could warm us up all winter if there is no Christmas tree in the picture. It could last until March then.
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Its a waste of channel # and Bandwith. What the purpose of it! Its stupid!

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Not everybody has a fireplace so I think it adds a nice touch in the homes or apartment.

You know what they say, if you don't like something, change the channel and don't watch it.

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Agreed, I love this channel and have it on quite often while listening to the radio or a few Cds
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Its a waste of channel # and Bandwith. What the purpose of it! Its stupid!
It appears to be a switched channel, so it's only a waste of bandwidth when someone's watching it.

BTW, my cat likes that channel. :-)
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