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Rogers announces gigabit internet and world's largest commitment to live sports broadcasting in 4K with HDR
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Rogers today announced it is bringing customers the next big thing in home entertainment with the launch of 4K ready gigabit internet speeds, a new 4K set top box, Rogers 4K TV and the world's largest commitment to live broadcasting in 4K with HDR.

Customers will enjoy live 4K TV broadcasts - four times the pixels of HD for higher resolution and improved motion video. Rogers will also introduce high dynamic range (HDR) - a leading edge technology that produces real-life images with richer colour saturation, contrast and resolution - in April 2016 for the Blue Jays home opener.

"4K TV sets have been in the market for some time and 40 per cent of all TV sales are likely to be 4K this holiday season. However, until now live TV broadcasts in 4K have been few and far between and customers have not been able to get 4K set top boxes," said Guy Laurence, President and CEO, Rogers Communications. "We are solving both problems in one go with the world's largest commitment to 4K broadcasting and a new 4K set top box for customers that will allow customers to see sports and entertainment in the highest resolution and with the fastest internet speeds. 4K gets you closer to the action than the linesman and first base coach, and HDR brings those images to life with intense colour and contrast."

Commits to broadcasting over 100 live events in 4K
Rogers customers can access over 500 hours of live sports, movies and shows in 4K beginning in 2016, including:

• Every Toronto Blue Jays 2016 season home game (81) broadcast in 4K with HDR live on Sportsnet™
• Over 20 marquee NHL games broadcast this season in 4K on Sportsnet, starting with the January 23rd Montreal Canadiens @ Toronto Maple Leafs game
• Over 100 hours of 4K movies, series and TV shows on shomi
• An ever-growing catalog of Netflix original series in 4K such as Narcos, Marvel's Daredevil, Wet Hot American Summer: First Day of Camp, Sense8, Grace and Frankie, Chef's Table, Bloodline, House of Cards and more

"As Canada's highest rated sports television network, Sportsnet continues to lead in innovative sports production with the introduction of 4K and HDR. We look forward to giving our viewers the latest and best quality broadcasts in the world," said Scott Moore, President, Sportsnet & NHL Properties, Rogers.

"The Blue Jays are having a terrific season, and the fan enthusiasm in Canada is palpable heading into the Postseason," said Baseball Commissioner Robert D. Manfred, Jr. "That excitement will only continue into next season, when Rogers brings Blue Jays fans all its home broadcasts in 4K. The technology will completely change how they experience the game at home. Partners like Rogers spark innovation in the game and bring fans even closer to the action."

"As we go into year two of our 12-year partnership, it is exciting that Rogers is bringing even more innovation to the game and our fans," National Hockey League Commissioner Gary Bettman said. "4K will deliver a broadcast experience like no other in sports and I'm thrilled Canadian hockey fans will get even closer to the game and action with this technology."

"Canadians love shomi and they will be able to enjoy an even sharper, higher resolution image when they are watching great movies and shows in 4K," said David Asch, Senior Vice President and General Manager, shomi. "4K content is on our roadmap and we look forward to delivering it to Canadians for the ultimate viewing experience."
To be among the first to get Rogers 4K TV, 4K set top box and Rogers Ignite Gigabit internet with unlimited usage for $149.99, please visit Introducing 4K TV*| A New Era of Picture Quality | Rogers to reserve.

Rogers FAQ: http://www.rogers.com/web/support/ac...v4k-ignite/389

Please use the following thread to discuss Rogers Gigabit Internet:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/195-...ml#post2617370

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What i really find interesting is that Rogers is actually going to integrate Netflix into their 4K boxes. I never thought this would happen. Bell may already have CDN to Netflix but they don't provide the app. Also is Rogers going to provide the 4K sports content to other providers?? and will it be streamed over IP??
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4K for 2016 Jays & Leafs home games...

Rogers announces gigabit internet and world's largest commitment to live sports broadcasting in 4K with... -- TORONTO, Oct. 5, 2015

• Every Toronto Blue Jays 2016 season home game (81) broadcast in 4K with HDR live on Sportsnet™
• Over 20 marquee NHL games broadcast this season in 4K on Sportsnet, starting with the January 23rd Montreal Canadiens @ Toronto Maple Leafs game

Article mentions camera upgrades in Rogers Center and Air Canada Center, which is why I'm assuming it will be (currently) specific to Jays and Leafs home games. Get your credit cards ready, this likely isn't going to be cheap.

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Hard to say without something beside it.
My guess, its somewhere in between the NB3 and the 8642 (though it does look DEEPER)

Now, is this still a CABLE box? Or is it IPTV?

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What i really find interesting is that Rogers is actually going to integrate Netflix into their 4K boxes. I never thought this would happen. Bell may already have CDN to Netflix but they don't provide the app. Also is Rogers going to provide the 4K sports content to other providers?? and will it be streamed over IP??
I read that a separate 4K Sportsnet channel would be available to other broadcasters.
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thenewdc: as I understand it, Rogers is required by law to provide the 4K content to other distributors.

And I get the impression that Rogers MAY only offer a TINY percentage of all that Netflix offers (especially in comparison to the MUCH larger amount of content available with the US Netflix compared to Canadian Netflix (due to licencing agreements).

And I think part of the Netflix announcement is because of significant criticism that Rogers has SEEMED to 'throttle' Netflix downloads - or at least Netflix has been slow on Rogers in comparison to other sources. (Others can chime in with much more informed info on this.)

And this is totally a guess on my part, but I think the new 4K box will be much more of an IPTV thingy - IPTV being what Rogers has been hinting is coming soon.

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The 4K box stinks :)

Let me be the first to say, that the new 4K selection of TV shows and movies is too limited

and the IPG interface of the 4K box is poorly designed (hey - I'm only assuming this based on my many years past experience Rogers glaring inability to create a usable PVR interface, as with Navigatr, and the depressing trend that Rogers seems to almost be intentionally hamstringing their PVRs - by REDUCING available features and usability as they come out with new boxes - specifically, as examples, with the change from the Scientific Atlanta 8300 PVR (SARA firmware) to the NB2, Rogers ELIMINATED about 15 useful features, and with the transition to Navigatr on the NB3, Rogers AGAIN eliminated a number of IMPORTANT features we have became accustomed to using (like a simple and easy to see LIST of Scheduled Programs)

So I'm honestly asking - with the new 4K box - will Rogers STILL be leaving the interface design decisions to managers who seem to have never used a PVR at home in their real lives, and will Rogers continue to make design choices in the interface that continue to increase their revenue (like subtly steering us towards VOD where we pay for each movie), while at the same time these design choices make our 'viewing experience' MORE DIFFICULT and frustrating and less convenient?


(sorry to repeat the same old complaint again and again - but I thought I would post this similar info here and on the Rogers forum - and we can see how much of this the Rogers mods 'edit.'



PS: No prices quoted yet by Rogers for purchase or rental of the 4K boxes.

Anybody got any guesses? And will we pay extra to get 4K channels (when they become available)? And I assume movies in 4K will cost more on VOD than HD/SD?
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...And I think part of the Netflix announcement is because of significant criticism that Rogers has SEEMED to 'throttle' Netflix downloads - or at least Netflix has been slow on Rogers in comparison to other sources. (Others can chime in with much more informed info on this.)
Although that was initially the case, Rogers and all the other major providers are on par as of earlier this year.

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I see that all the "high speed" ISPs are now clustered between roughly 3-3.5 mbps. With Rogers doubling their Netflix speeds in the past 9 months, the majors (Shaw, Rogers, Bell) are now within 5% of each other)
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/217-...ml#post2432265

If you wish to discuss that topic further, please use the link above and if you're industrious, please find a new link for the speed tests since the link in that thread is dead.

Edit by Dr.Dave: I got industrious and updated post 1 of the Netflix thread.

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Although we'll have to wait and see what this box can do, i'll assume it's some sort of hybrid that can deliver multicast video over IP which will likely be the 4K stuff, and the rest broadcast MPEG2. I'm also wondering if this box supports H.265 delivery over H.264?. I also saw a mention in the announcement, of Android boxes which needs more clarification.
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The box looks huge......[/QUOTE]
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Good observation!
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As I said on another forum, with the limited, and I mean limited, 4K content, I am more concerned about what Rogers is going to do with the regular network broadcasts. They are so behind the times with PQ as it stands right now, they have to change it. I find many network TV shows to be unwatchable. Mind you, I am shooting onto a 92" screen and sit 8 feet away, but, you get my drift.

I pay for cable, but the PQ is so sub-par, I end up downloading most of my TV shows and watching them that way.

If they don't address this, with this new 4K box, it will be like putting lipstick on a pig.
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https://www.rogers.com/consumer/tv/hardware some more information on the new box and pricing. Not sure when it will be available.
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Rogers promotes very well, but unfortunately, they seldom deliver on any of their promises!
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