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post #211 of 361 (permalink) Old 2014-01-02, 11:58 AM
 
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Ripping BDs (if this is planned) on a slim drive is expensive and PITA.
Have never seen/used a slim BD burner.
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post #212 of 361 (permalink) Old 2014-01-02, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
 
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I do have BR player in the room, but the intended use of the ODD is:
- to occasionally burn/rip DVDs or BR's
- to routinely play DVDs or BR's if this turns out to be more convenient.

Seem to me that as I am starting with a clean slate, I should not have not have to compromise and settle for a flimsy drive, especially as I am looking at decent size mATX boxes. And besides, why struggle. I'll check out other cases.

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What makes ripping BDs on a slim drive expensive? Do you mean expensive (money) or expensive (time)?

I've used slim Blu-ray drives on a all-in-one PC, and it seemed to work just fine. And, honestly, if I were given a Blu-ray movie for christmas, the first thing I would probably do is rip it just so that I wouldn't need the plastic disc anymore, and so I could use it on more devices.
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Both. It costs more and takes longer to rip. Especially DL BDs.
Reportedly, the blue laser + lens "heads" are not as reliable/stable due to space constrains...
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While that is true I personally rarely use optical discs so the flimsy nature may not matter as much, but if you play rather than burn DVDs that could be an issue.
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From my experience (admittedly, 2-3 years old) it takes 50%-100% longer to rip a BD on a slim drive than on a standard size (both LGs).
Ripping is the only job this drive does on the only one PC in the house (not HTPC)...
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Silverstone and Fractal are quite impressive, but I can't seem to find a mATX case that accommodates a full size ODD without reading about some sort of caution/caveat.

If I look at more budget entry level cases, these appear to be easier to deal with if all I have is a full size ODD, and SDD boot drive and one or two HDDs :
Eg:
-Antec NSK3180
-Rosewill FBM-01 450P

Something to mull over.

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You asked about IR.

My answer, most you use a USB IR receiver. Some PCI-E tuners have an IR receiver. Some USB tuners may as well.

Some motherboard may have CIR (Consumer Infra-Red). I have an Asrock that has that with a Nuvoton chip, and that works with a raw IR receiver module from a DVD player.
My quick glance of various motherboards shows that Asrock is apparently the only manufacturer (at least that makes AMD boards) with CIR.
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post #219 of 361 (permalink) Old 2014-01-04, 01:00 PM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks.

For the planned Intel NUC in the den (with CIR), is there some software to run to set it up for existing ( or new) remotes?

XBMC Constellation for iPad also looks interesting (though its more for me ; wife still needs a conventional remote)

FLIRC looks like a nice option as well.

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You should see if you get a NUC one, with a built in IR sesnsor.. would save having to have something else.

I know XMBC works with most WMC remotes fairly full featured. Plex has limited support (play, FF, pause, etc and your directional buttons)

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.... Even for GD05. the SPCR review notes: "Our only real complaint is the optical drive that overhangs the CPU socket and interferes with larger CPU coolers,....
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The Silverstone cases are pretty nice. I have a FULL SIZE one.. larger than that one. accommodates a full size motherboard (like up to 5 pci slots), which was given to me. while it was large, it fit in perfectly with other equipment when I had an HTPC in the living room.
For the GD05, I did check out some installs, with a full size ODD. The owner did indeed point out some really tiny clearances with respect to a larger CPU fan, and even the need for low profile memory...but he got it done. But after installing 2 HDDs and an SDD, its was pretty clear this is really all a bit too tight a fit. Ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uRMRqC4Aus

For the GD08, this is a really nice case re aesthetics and build quality (GdKitty - is this the full size case you were referring to?). Interesting practical video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxslPW_m-O4. Now this owner still points out that things can get tight, even in a GD08 (!!!) , re CPU cooler, memory ....but is this because he is using a full ATX??. With a micro ATX would the CPU cooler be significantly more to the back, fully clearing the ODD?? Even so, memory height could be an issue if below the cooler, and he he had limitations re all by basic video cards...and expressed concerns about ventilation!! I was surprised to learn of all those concerns, even in a "large" GD08 box. Flip side is with integrated video, stock fan, full-sized ODD and any type of storage, there would be no issues.

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Mine isn't listed there.. likely an older model.. looking at their legacy stuff.. very similar to the LC04.
You are correct, about the tightness in there.. with a FULL more super powerful video card, which is very long, double witdth, etc.. you may run into space issues against the drives, depending on the layout.
I know on mine, the ODD, was on the CPU side, so likely wouldn't interfear with a video card, etc.

Going to a microATX over a ATX, etc.. wont change a lot, depending on the layout... I would think.
Usually your PCI-E slot, is the closest to the CPU etc.. which would fall in the same spot, weither a full or micro ATX.. so if its in the way on one, will be in the way or the other.

Going with a slimmer box.. you could get a more basic video.. which would still be more than enough for playback.. which is 1/2 height. Even in a full size case, one of these cards might be more preferable.. as they do not take up the same height as a full size card.

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I am less concerned about the mammoth video card as I am not a gamer-- concern was more about the full size ODD and tight clearance between it and the cpu fan (and tall memory) - much like the pro and user reviews are saying. Stock(noisier?) cooler would be one solution (given the larger cooler just makes it).

UPDATE: Much better description of GD08 pros and cons here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OwvSoQnhj4 and the full build process here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5L1V6p2RHE . Looks more roomier now! Gonna take the advice and browse through the manual before ruling this beauty in or out.

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I am trying to remember what I last had in that case... its retired and not in use at the moment..
But the ODD was on the side, where the ram/cpu was, as you were describing.

CPU wise, it was fine, it was more than far enough away, at least on my model.. other ones may vary. That was with a stock AMD 5000+ CPU fan.
It DID go overtop of the memory though partially. Clearance SHOULD be fine, for a standard height memory, as long as you don't get memory with ultra high passive cooling grills on it.

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My latest component list for the diy HPTC (plus room to grow) is summarized here.

I am unsure of the power supply choice - I think its more than adequate for now, but if/when I upgrade video etc., it may be lacking. ..but I suppose I can upgrade it as well as when I cross that bridge.

Same for memory, 8GB is right amount for now, but no point buying more now (based on current pricing), as I can always add more later.

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