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post #46 of 57 (permalink) Old 2016-12-05, 09:49 PM
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Most film is 24fps so it makes little difference for that content.
TV content is typically shot at much higher frame rates, and also a pretty high resolution. For example, House of Cards is apparently shot using a RED EPIC DRAGON (which, apparently, doesn't support lower case), at "6k" resolution, at 120fps.

My understanding is that RED cameras are very popular with creators, and I imagine content producers would want to make master versions of their content in as high resolution and frame rate as possible.

Looking at the few places that still sell plastic discs, it seems to me that there are more "TV content hours" worth of content vs movie content.
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post #47 of 57 (permalink) Old 2016-12-06, 10:37 AM
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Thank you for the excellent information and discussion. I never did get 24fps as a "feature".
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post #48 of 57 (permalink) Old 2016-12-06, 11:14 AM
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24fps is a "feature" for people who want to preserve the look of film.

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post #49 of 57 (permalink) Old 2016-12-06, 12:14 PM
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I appreciate that modern films and high end TV features will be shot at much higher resolution. It's quite evident, even at standard HD resolutions, that House of Cards benefits from much higher production values than most TV content. There is at least one TV series on now that looks like it was shout in wide screen SD, maybe on purpose. I was just pointing out that a lot of material will not suffer any degradation on BD. It's obvious that the opposite is true and I also pointed that out.

The last I heard, some movie theaters were using 1920x1080p for digital projection. I'm sure that has been improved upon for many venues but there's still no guarantee that a movie theater will be any better than a BD. In the end, costs and legacy considerations will guarantee that new, high end technology will be held back for some time.
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24fps is a "feature" for people who want to preserve the look of film.
Well, low-quality film. The reason why 24fps was selected was because back in the day, film was expensive. 24fps is where the frame rate just barely crossed over from "unbearable" to "bearable".
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Even at that it was necessary to run the shutter at 48 f/s, so that each frame was projected twice. However, video at a rate that matches the source tends to look better.

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post #52 of 57 (permalink) Old 2016-12-22, 01:18 AM
 
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Wayne is absolutely correct. Really pushing people to use pirated contents. Closely like the music industry. And now, see the result, the music industry has gone to the wrong people. And now their very very few good artist left in Music
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I wouldn't go that far. I'd say that it's just pushing people to use streaming services. Not everyone will respond by using bittorrent, many will just be happy with Netflix.
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Back for my bi-annual rant. Six versions later and my copy of PDVD16 will not play new blu-rays. I've had an epiphany, if you will. Netflix, et.al. are subscription services that stream content to my HTPC. CyberLink is a subscription service that streams pre-crippled DRM-laden players for my Blu-ray.

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I've had 3 software BD players "expire." They just discontinued supporting or selling them only a year after selling me the latest upgrade. The third was from a company that simply went out of business. They shortly after that changed names and started selling the (obviously) identical product at a higher price as a new product. It wouldn't have been so bad but I had a supposedly lifetime license. Life of the company I guess. I'm in a similar situation with some highly protected audio discs that require expensive players with limited availability. (My disc player stopped working.) As a result, I will never again purchase a DRM copy protected product of any kind.

Streaming is an exception but even there I am extremely leery as a lot of streaming services do not work well and have onerous restrictions on playback of content. I've cancelled streaming services that didn't work well and refuse to use services that do things like disable player controls or don't work with certain browsers or privacy tools. They make the claim it's to prevent piracy but it's ineffective at that. All it does is penalize paying customers who just want to enjoy a TV show or movie. I spent a hour today trying to watch the last ten minutes of a show I missed. I couldn't do it due to lousy DRM restrictions that prevented FF to the last 10 minutes.
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I had the same problem with some special features. I couldn't FF, skip or use the scrub bar. So I was forced to play from the beginning just to watch the last half.

Another gripe. I hate the 4-5 piracy warnings but can tolerate them on a movie I might watch every few years. But on a season of TV shows? That is every night for 13-25 nights!
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post #57 of 57 (permalink) Old 2018-07-26, 09:22 AM
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Some software players for the PC will skip unwanted warnings and ads. The studios don't like such players and claim they are illegal but the studios basically brought it on themselves by unduly penalizing people who watch their products legally.
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