I am not sure if you would be interested in this, but there are Cogeco PVRs that are not Tivos. I have one it is an Arris DCX3520e-M. I decided a few months ago to get rid of the Tivo (a mistake - I miss the Tivo). I went to the Cogeco store and asked if they have non-Tivo PVRs. They did and gave me one. As for Bell, I wouldn't switch back. They have awful customer service.