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post #121 of 128 (permalink) Old 2018-10-02, 09:26 AM
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Star Trek: Short Treks “Runaway” will run on Space on Thursday, Oct. 4 at 9 PM ET for 20 minutes, with several repeats and the next day on CraveTV.

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post #122 of 128 (permalink) Old 2018-10-02, 11:36 AM
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@gbamber : You admit that it is not the same as any previous Trek. So why don't the creators just give it a new name, place the stories in a new universe and stop trading on a well established and beloved franchise? The new Discovery series is many things, most of them good on their own, but it is not in concept or theme any part of the Star Trek we know and love. It is getting close to fraud to call it Star Trek. Star Trek series were always full of optimism and the good of humanity. The new series is nothing but paranoia, duplicity and hate portrayed almost as if they were virtues.

(Note: I'd make the same complaint against all all the remakes, reimaginings, and reboots, with which we are now being inflicted at the movies and on TV. Latest abomination: the new Magnum PI).
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So why don't the creators just give it a new name, place the stories in a new universe and stop trading on a well established and beloved franchise?
They are profiting by trading on the name and that's the only reason. TV shows that don't get instant audiences don't get or keep advertisers and don't last as long. The history of spinoffs and sound-alike TV series has a long history. Star Trek is one of the biggest franchises to take advantage of it's name. Would Star Trek: TNG have been as popular by any other name? How about Star Trek: The Movie? How about the abundance of Law & Order and CSI spinoffs? How about all the current reboots including Magnum PI? Some of those producers tried similar shows under different names and they were cancelled quickly. Star Trek: Discovery by any other name probably wouldn't get made with the same production or promotion budget and it wouldn't attract the same quality of actors and other personnel.
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Ever since the animated series piggy-backed on the fan-success of the original series, Star Trek has always been re-imagined. So, after TOS, nothing has been the same as the original. I remember how some people were so upset at the TNG Klingons being so different... and now it's deja vu... updated Klingons for an updated audience. STD reminds me of the latest movies which are more action-orientated, like before them The Wrath of Khan and First Contact. Yes, definitely too much action but I guess that's what younger audiences want.

Every new movie and series takes the basic Trek template and pushes it further based on contemporary effects and culture. It just can't remain stuck in the 60s. So it is the same yet not the same. Spock to Data to hologram Doctor to 7of9 to Saru .... all of them using the same character template of identity crisis/conflicts/fitting in.

I'm hoping STD develops more character-driven arcs and amusing/optimism.

I've enjoyed reading the STD novels.
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I'm with reidw on this. TOS, TNG, DS9 (to a lesser extent), and VOY made it a point to show humanity had evolved and learned some lessons from the Eugenics Wars and WW III and was better. The characters on STD would be right at home on any of today's contemporary drama series. Show something different! The reboot films also suffer from similar issues. Pretty to look at, but the plots of the last two are paint-by-numbers yawnfests.

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SEASON TWO OF "STAR TREK: DISCOVERY" TO LAUNCH THURSDAY, JANUARY 17, 2019 ON CBS ALL ACCESS (source)
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Season 2 will premiere on Space simultaneously. (Source)
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Star Trek: Short Treks “Calypso” will run on Space on Thursday, Nov. 8 at 9 PM ET for 20 minutes, with repeats the next day.

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