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post #76 of 128 (permalink) Old 2017-10-02, 06:27 AM
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The Klingons were awful. Why make all those stark changes in appearance and then Force us to divert our eyes to the translated text? Someone earlier suggested if not for Shatner's delivery TOS episodes could be 35 minutes long. Well halting Klingon spoken with a mouth full of prosthetics is worse.

I'll still watch, of course, but hoping we'll see less of them.
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Subtitles are difficult to read for people with visual impairment. It would be nice if they set it up with alternate audio for English/Klingon and optional closed captions. The current setup is obviously intended for ultra hardcore Trekkies that can understand Klingon and those with good eyesight.

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hoping we'll see less of them.
Not likely, unfortunately. From what I've seen, at least this season is all about war with the Klingon empire. They'll be back in force.
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post #78 of 128 (permalink) Old 2017-10-02, 03:21 PM
 
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really hate the new Klingons. No reason to change them. They are basically Orcs in space. Not only that but they changed a great bit of Klingon lore. As established in ST-TNG, Klingons care not for dead Klingon bodies. But Discovery changes all that.
paraphrasing, the body is nothing but an empty shell, please treat it as such.

I would be ok with it if they had instead made up a whole new race instead of reinventing what is already there. There is that but then again, they did do a big revamp of Klingons from what they were in ST-TOS, TNG really made a huge change (for the better IMO)

And what is with the big dog from Ghostbusters running around on the 2 ships?
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As previously announced, STAR TREK: DISCOVERY will air in two chapters. The eight-episode-long first chapter of the series will now be increased to nine episodes, with the final episode of chapter one debuting on Sunday, Nov. 12. The second chapter, featuring the remaining six episodes, will return in January 2018.

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Can someone please explain to me why the producers of Star Trek Discovery are now endorsing the use of the word "f**k" in their episodes.
I've heard various explanations including "the world we live in is different from one or even two generations ago". That's it?
As far as I'm concerned, the reason they are doing this is for the same reason some comedians use it profusely in their act - they have no talent.
I find the whole show stilted and unimaginative and cryptic. The acting sucks and the episodes have no flow.
My kids wanted to watch this show but now they can't.
I am really, really disappointed in CBS.
This isn't a question of "keeping up with the times". It's just another case of the disintegration of society and its morals.
Very very shabby and shameful.
The show has lost a viewer.
Want more proof? I had to edit my post because the first time I used the word "****" it was censored - like it is now. So I had to change it to "f**k".
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So your kids will not be permitted to watch the show because of some swearing. You have watched it to know about the swearing or is this hearsay?
I am not questioning your decision, your kids, your choice, just interested that's all.


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There were two instances of f**k in the last episode. Not really necessary as they didn't add anything and were somewhat jarring. Variations of "hell" would have worked just as well.

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I watched it. Do you know what the term "hearsay" means and where it applies?
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Not a fan of the F bomb. I think is generally overused. However this may sound contradictory they way it was used in ST: D, it didn't offend or shock. It was dropped and the initial user showed a natural sheepishness about using it and they went on. The dialog in the context of the scene seemed natural. Using hell, frak or something I think would else would have seemed unnatural. If they start using it on a regular basis then yeah I will have an issue.

I am sure there was a bit of hey we are not on broadcast TV so we can push the limits, hopefully it is not used as a crutch but as a one off I am not overly concerned.
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Jay Leno got it right when he explained why he doesn't swear in his routines. It's because "idiot" is funnier. It is and he uses it a lot. There are almost always better words to use than fork.
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pretty disappointed with ST Discovery. It does not seem like Star Trek. They changed the Klingons into Orcs in space that speak a Native American language. Close your eyes and you think you are watching "Dances with Wolves".

Did not notice them dropping the F-bomb but i kind of zoned out of the last episode pretty much. Not sure if the F-bomb belongs in the ST universe. But in general i do hate censorship or editing for content. Put up a viewer warning at the start and do not complain if it is adult content. You were warned.

I find it disturbing that someone finds it ok to let the little kids watch a movie (on TV edited for content) like Saving Private Ryan. Over dub all the swear words but leave all the gore and bloody detail intact. The beach landing. give us a F-ing chance dubbed to Fighting Chance. Blood, guts, dismemberment and death is ok so long as they dont say the F-word.
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Maybe we should shorten the name to STD. That would explain a lot. I really enjoyed the first two episodes. It's gone downhill since. Then I found out the the series creator wrote the first two episodes and then left or was replaced. That's when ST: Discovery became STD.
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NY Times from today: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/a...imes&smtyp=cur

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The most direct antecedent for “Discovery” might not be any “Trek” series but the 2004–09 reboot of “Battlestar Galactica.” That series was also a bleaker riff on a previous series, turning the struggle of humanity against the Cylons — a society of robots that mankind created — into one of the best fictional treatments of the war on terror. Ingeniously, it rethought the Cylons as monotheistic zealots, murderous but with a culture and ideals that could not be easily dismissed.
A fair comparison but I disagree with the assessment of Battlestar Galactica. That show let the critical hype go to its head, rendering large parts of the final two seasons a wearying slog.

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I preferred BSG to what I'm seeing on STD thus far.

On STD the acting is reasonably good, and the special effects are great. The problem is that the writing is horrible.

Oh well.
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At least they are honouring Rick Berman and Michael Piller with the character name Michael Burnham.
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