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post #31 of 91 (permalink) Old 2010-01-20, 12:11 AM
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I can understand this happening when they don't have cdn rights, but then why list the title in the Bell Channel guide?
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post #32 of 91 (permalink) Old 2010-01-20, 12:37 AM
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On Rogers there's no Movie listed in the guide - only the Blackout Information (indicating no Canadian Rights - TCM-HD) This is one of the few times that the TVGuide Canada info supplied to Rogers has been "superior".

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post #33 of 91 (permalink) Old 2010-01-20, 12:56 AM
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Interesting to know. I wonder why Bell can't update their channel guides for this kind of thing. Surely it must annoy their subscribers to no end if this happens regularly.
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post #34 of 91 (permalink) Old 2010-01-20, 03:27 AM
 
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On the Bell 9242 I have certainly seen "Blackout In Effect" in the program guide.
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post #35 of 91 (permalink) Old 2010-01-20, 09:10 AM
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If you check the SD TCM channel, you can watch the film. They don't have the HD rights for Canada, I suppose.
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Doesn't it seem strange that there would be separate licensing of SD and HD rights for 40 year old movies?
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post #37 of 91 (permalink) Old 2010-01-20, 10:22 AM
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Rights for HD programming are almost always negotiated separately, or in combination with, the SD rights for the programme.

This is part of the reason why many "HD" channels show upconverts - saves them the money to pay for the HD version, especially in reruns.

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post #38 of 91 (permalink) Old 2010-01-25, 02:44 PM
 
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Just to be clear

I wanted to clear up some misunderstanding with this issue of TCM HD being blacked out.

Jan 25, 2010 1:30pm-5:00pm Bell 1283 (TCM-HD) Blacked out due to not having broadcast rights in Canada.

Bell 292 (TCM SD) The Male Animal 1:30-3:15, then Dream Wife 3:15-5:00pm

Meanwhile, on Echostar 132 (TCM US SD) The Long Night 1:30pm-3:15, then The Lady Killers 3:15-5:00pm

So, not only do they not have HD rights, they don't even have Canadian rights to the SD version.

Currently we have blackouts listed in the programming guide for the 1:30-5:00 slot, as well as another on Saturday and a third on Tuesday next week. So there are a fair number of blackouts.

As far as my Bell 9242 is concerned, however, the programming guide is accurately stating which moving is playing (or if there's a blackout.)

My conversation with ExpressVu support has them telling me that what I am seeing has nothing to do with them. In other words, the change in programming or blackout is coming directly from TCM and if I wish to complain about it I should contact TCM...so that's my next step.
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A few more interesting tid-bits.

I went to TCM.com and choose the "Canadian Schedule" menu option at the top of the web page. It lists "The Long Night" and "The Ladykillers", not the movies that are actually playing on Bell 292 (TCM SD). In fact, that isn't the Canadian shedule...

http://www.tcm.com/schedule/index.jsp?cid=CAN is the link to the proper Canadian shedule.

TCM acknowledge on their site that they are working to obtain the Canadian rights for all movies they play.

Finally, TCM do not broadcast in HD in the US which may explain why we get nothing on Bell 1283 (TCM HD) as a substitute for the movies they don't have Canadian rights to.
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Finally, TCM do not broadcast in HD in the US which may explain why we get nothing on Bell 1283 (TCM HD) as a substitute for the movies they don't have Canadian rights to.
TCM in HD has been available in the US since last summer.
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Ooops, my bad, didn't realize that.
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TCM in HD has been available in the US since last summer.
This is true, but as far as I know they haven't broadcast anything in hd yet. Everything is upconverted.
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While it's true that they originally showed all up-converts due to lack of HD infrastructure, TCM HD in the U.S. began incorporating true HD screenings into the mix last October, starting with "Night of the Hunter" and "Downhill Racer".
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post #44 of 91 (permalink) Old 2010-02-14, 10:12 PM
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Question Casablanca HD on TCM

Can someone explain why Casablanca on TCM HD would be blacked out earlier in the day but not later? There must have been some quick negotiations between showings.

Last edited by 57; 2010-02-14 at 11:52 PM. Reason: Moved to existing thread. Nothing to do with Bell.
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post #45 of 91 (permalink) Old 2010-02-15, 08:07 AM
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^^^^
Perhaps someone said "Play it again Sam". ;-)


(yes, I know that's not the correct quote)
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