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post #376 of 383 (permalink) Old 2014-06-09, 01:32 PM
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Angry Reuters: Canada poised to buy 65 Lockheed Martin F-35s

I posted this Reuters story to /. a few days ago in case some of you have already seen it there: Canada is poised to buy 65 Lockheed Martin Corp F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets. Round and round we go, the silliness never stops. As I've said here repeatedly, this government is hell-bent on buying that plane.

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post #377 of 383 (permalink) Old 2014-12-28, 04:39 PM
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F-35 Unable To Properly See Battlefield Below

Here's another item to add to the "What a piece of junk!" list of F-35 shortcomings:
When the Pentagon’s nearly $400 billion F-35 Joint Strike Fighter finally enters service next year after nearly two decades in development, it won’t be able to support troops on the ground the way older planes can today. Its sensors won’t be able to see the battlefield as well; and what video the F-35 does capture, it won’t be able to transmit to infantrymen in real time.

So, in order to be stealthy (which we don't need, and which the Chinese and Russians have overcome with L-band radar anyways) the F-35 uses an internally mounted technology that is 10 years behind the capability of the newest external-pod-mounted gear on today's F-18s and other similar fighters. But, putting those newest external pods on an F-35 defeats the whole point of the stealth technology, so round and round we go on a hideously expensive piece of junk.

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post #378 of 383 (permalink) Old 2019-05-06, 08:08 PM
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So it appears Trump is upset with Canada and guy in charge of the F-35 program has written that the F-35 program "does not allow the F-35 to participate in a fair and open competition".

Easy solution then - don't bid. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/f35...orce-1.5125009
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post #379 of 383 (permalink) Old 2019-08-17, 06:18 PM
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Wow. This old thread still has legs? Alrighty then. The Lockheed Martin F-35's per unit cost has dropped to $80M, still has defects, but more and more countries are buying. Canada's competition will be interesting. The new Super Hornet Block III will challenge with a number of very effective upgrades. The Airbus Eurofighter might be in the mix as it too has a number of effective upgrades and last but not least the Saab Jas-39 E/F Gripen is flying three prototypes that has all the bells and whistles.

It should be interesting, but barring Canada re-establishing a domestic industry to manufacture a fighter jet (Eurofighter and Gripen), I think it will come down to the F-35 and the SH. I believe Canada will choose the Super Hornet and its Electronic Warfare Variant, the Growler.
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post #380 of 383 (permalink) Old 2019-08-18, 11:35 AM
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I say Canada may go with the Super Hornet option, but would add the caveat that it would have to be in the price range of the F-35. The cost of operations would be lower for the SH and current spare parts and weapons inventories could be used from what I understand. The cost of the EF and Gripen are unknowns, but I would hazard a guess that they'd be higher simply because not as many are being manufactured. The Gripen has the lowest operating cost of the group.
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post #381 of 383 (permalink) Old 2019-08-18, 03:46 PM
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Been following this thread for a while. Old man flew cf 100's '59-61 out of North Bay as a back seater. 433 Squadron A.W. Interceptor 2 engines were a must. Still are.
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I don't necessarily subscribe to that theory. Single engine safety records are quite good and some article I've read believe just as good as two engines. Of the four a/c in the competition, two have two engines (Super Hornet and Eurofighter) and two have single engines (F-35 and Jas39 E/F). There are a number of plus's for each aircraft that will make this an interesting competition.
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post #383 of 383 (permalink) Old 2019-08-30, 03:21 PM
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Airbus is out.

Airbus Defence and Space, which was pitching the Eurofighter Typhoon, notified the Liberal government Friday that it was not going to bid.

The decision was made after a detailed review of the tender issued by the federal government in mid-July.

The move leaves only three companies in the contest: Lockheed Martin Canada with its F-35; Boeing with the Super Hornet; and Saab, which is offering an updated version of its Gripen fighter
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