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post #46 of 86 (permalink) Old 2014-04-20, 12:08 PM Thread Starter
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It still doesn't explain how WNED got restricted on 17 when they had the allocation forever. I don't see how a Canadian station can just move in and say "Tough" we're taking over like it or not, and why is RF43 restricted in ERP? Thank God, NBC,CBS and ABC didn't get any power restrictions or directional patterns forced on them.
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post #47 of 86 (permalink) Old 2014-04-20, 01:16 PM
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Actually WGRZ applied for 980kw but Industry Canada objected stating Barrie allocation for rf 33 for CBC directional north the same as analog repeater on 16 would be impacted.10 years later and no station on rf 33 and it was to be directional North anyway and would have had no impact anyway.WUTV was late to conversion table and got shafted.Industry Canada realized how good ASTC in uhf band worked and protection mode kicked in big time.

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WUTV has 1000KW but directional, they're still giving me full bars all year round, at least where i live. It seems like IC was doing everything it could to keep U.S. signal out of Canada.
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Depending on where you are WUTV signal toward Hamilton is only 25kw ERP.

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WUTV has 1000KW but directional, they're still giving me full bars all year round, at least where i live. It seems like IC was doing everything it could to keep U.S. signal out of Canada.
That's their job. Since American signals are not protected in Canada, and Canadian ratings do not count towards ad rates on American stations, there is no good reason to allow American stations omni patterns in border areas where spectrum space is at a premium.
On the other hand, most PBS stations get omni-directional patterns. WNED is a special case, since for historical reasons, channel 17 was NOT a non-commercial allocation. (WNLO's analog allocation on channel 23 was technically a non-commercial allocation, which I believe is why their digital allocation is full-power omni-directional.)
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Getting WBXZ here in Brighton today, although weak. It appears to be negatively impacted by CIII Paris which is only about 20 degrees off at my location, which I am also getting if I turn my antenna. So I am getting 3 RF 17's today.... WBXZ, CIII, and WSYR Syracuse.

Very similar situation for me on RF15 as well with CHCH, WBNF and WSPX Syracuse. WBNF really interferes with CHCH, but can usually get both.
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Yet almost all of the Toronto TV and FM have Omni patterns.I have driven a few times across I-90 and the Toronto fm stations are solid and clear to Rochester.

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Spectrum WOULD be at a premium if Canadians actually used it. Problem is most people have a hard time understanding, and rightly so judging by the lack of active TV stations in places outside of major cities like TO. There's all these allocations being protected by IC that will never ever be used (by Canadians). Some go unused on this side also... I think that's what people have a hard time grasping... The cross border agreements should be written like if ur not gonna use it after X amount of time, ya lose it...(the allocation)...Otherwise it's just hoarding.

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Signal are hot tonight with WPXJ,ION at 100% ,WDTB ,no signal at 50% and WBXZ nothing 0.Can someone not mix up signal connections and give me WBXZ in place of no signal on WDTB.Nobody will miss no signal screen being displayed.What a waste WDTB is.

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I have reception of WBXZ (56.x) this evening in the Port Credit/Cooksville area of Mississauga. It is essentially the same strength as WDTB (39.1). Only time will tell, but it has the potential of being semi-regular during the summer based on what I saw this evening.

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I have got in now at 10:40pm with 8 bars on my old Samsung 151 box and my big yagi 4248.But I sure its just the hot signal conditions.56.1 has the only programing right now.

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I came home tonight from a long weekend visit out-of-town and was pleased to see that WBXZ is coming in full strength at my location at Mortimer & Greenwood in the east-end of downtown Toronto.

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I've been monitoring it's reliability for a few days now since they signed on. In my neck of the woods to the Northeast, it's been consistent pretty much at 1-2 bars, but last night it was peaking at 10 bars, some tropo going on. The only time I lost it for a few hours was during the rain a few days back. Coming in again strong this morning, WDTB is definitely weaker than WBXZ at my location.
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WBXZ

This morning WBXZ is gone.WDTB is still ok at 25%.So between a more directional pattern and Global its a no reception for WBXZ in Northwest Mississauga.

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Still working for me at 2 bars now, has dropped from earlier. I think the norm for me is going to be 1-2 bars
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