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post #76 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-24, 10:22 PM
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WBNF on 15 Buffalo has a CP to move to channel 16.
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post #77 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-24, 11:00 PM
 
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This is a horrible idea. Perhaps they could take RF29 or 34 or 17. There's no way I'd be able to get CHCH this side of WBNF. I think the best solution would be to just stay on 11 and crank up the power. It's a loss for anyone near WBNF and even more for anyone near Star Ray. I'd say they won't be able to watch either. CHCH probably won't work because star ray would interfere, and star ray would probably be unwatchable.
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Keep in mind Star Ray is unlicensed, to put it politely. It would be highly improper for its status to be taken into consideration.
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post #79 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-25, 12:11 PM
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That is great news! CHCH was one of the channels I watched the most during the last transition year. The I lost it when it moved to VHF 11 :-(

Does anyone know how long an application like this will take to go through the "process" before a decision is made? And then roughly how long after that before they switch the UHF 15?
If this is any indication, the CKVR Hamilton repeater was posted June 17th and has yet to be ruled on. So don't throw away your VHF antennas just yet. :-)

I find it odd that a pirate operation has lasted this long, maybe because no one has raised a stink about it. If CHCH's application is approved, for sure Star Ray will screw up CHCH reception for someone and that will be the end of them using RF15 I'd guess.

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post #81 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-25, 03:38 PM
 
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Stay on channel 11

As someone who watches WEWS regularly out of Cleveland, I'm gonna be some ticked if this move interferes with reception of WEWS.

I don't know who in their right mind assigns channels like 11 -> 15 in Hamilton and CBLN 40 -> 23 in London without considering the implications. I know the London OTA people are now having a tough time with Erie channels 66 and 24 as a result of the new CBC allocation. Thank goodness that one is only for one year.

The proper thing to do here would be to just increase CHCH ERP and stay on VHF 11.

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post #82 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-25, 06:35 PM
 
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This is great news. The loss of CHCH after the digital transition was a big blow to most of the GTA as the channel had lots of great unique programming unlike the network channels who simsub most of their primetime programming. It goes to show you that the OTA community is now large enough and has enough economic clout for a station to want to improve their broadcasting power.
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post #83 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-25, 06:40 PM
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re: WBNF, correct me if I am wrong, but are they not on an unprotected frequency and MUST accept interference and can not cause any interference. I am sure CHCH can demonstrate that WBNF on RF 15 would cause interference forcing the station to change frequencies. If 'tvlurker' is correct, moving to RF 16 solves their problem since it is a protected USA station and WSEE in Erie, PA is the closest station to transmit, so it would be enough of a buffer.

If they made the signal from Hamilton directional to the north (since CHCH already has a rebroadcaster in London) would that not solve the problem with WEWS?
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post #84 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-25, 07:47 PM
 
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Wrong!! WBNF is a Class A low power station and does indeed get protection from interference. CHCH's application will never get approved for CH15 as omnidirectional at 132 KW.
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post #85 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-25, 07:58 PM
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Industry Canada will approve this as channel 15 at 493kw is already allotted for Hamilton.

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post #86 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-25, 08:49 PM
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moving to RF 16 solves their problem since it is a protected USA station and WSEE in Erie, PA is the closest station to transmit
Don't forget WXXI in Rochester transmits on RF16. Pretty sure Rochester is closer to Grand Island than Erie.

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Your right, I did forget about WXXI. It probably isn't feasible then...
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post #88 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-26, 11:33 AM
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WNYB can solve the problem by going back to their original plan of boosting their signal to 1 MW.
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post #89 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-26, 12:05 PM
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Please keep this in mind: U.S. stations have no protection in Canada; Canadian stations have no protection in the U.S.
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post #90 of 246 (permalink) Old 2011-11-26, 12:52 PM
 
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Definitely good news. I do currently get CHCH with my indoor Terk easily enough, but I'm looking to upgrade to a more powerful antenna, and this increases my options considerably. CFTO is probably strong enough that I may be able to get it with a UHF antenna like a CM4221HD, but I knew I wouldn't have much hope of CHCH with a UHF antenna.
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